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Old 11-14-2018, 12:28 AM   #1
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I'm becoming of the mind that lockdown corners are overpaid luxury items. Team defense and pass rush is the way to go.

If you have 11 above average players on your defense - sure, go nuts and splurge on a better CB. But if you have 9 above average players and 2 sub-standard ones, NFL OC's are going to find those 2 and pick them apart. Go ahead and add Ramsey but if you're still rolling guys like Parker out there or when it inevitably costs you draft capital and salary space and weakens other parts of the defense, they're just gonna find those holes. Rasmey's 5th year option as a top 10 pick is gonna be in the $13 million range so let's not act like he's not gonna be plenty expensive even on the 5th year tag.

I just don't see a sufficient ROI w/ these big money CBs.
Agreed. I would extend that assessment to virtually all positions save QB. I would field arguments for tackles and passrush, but passrush can get bent at these prices.

Fact is, nobody at any position except QB affects a material amount of plays to pay for top line talent (or at least top line salary).

It comes back to production per unit salary cap and I just don't see paying market leading dollars at the positions that aren't QB. Not to say I want all rookies and vet minimum contracts out here, but if you look at the top 5 or so at each position there are very few of them that you could objectively say are worth it.
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:30 AM   #2
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Agreed. I would extend that assessment to virtually all positions save QB. I would field arguments for tackles and passrush, but passrush can get bent at these prices.

Fact is, nobody at any position except QB affects a material amount of plays to pay for top line talent (or at least top line salary).

It comes back to production per unit salary cap and I just don't see paying market leading dollars at the positions that aren't QB. Not to say I want all rookies and vet minimum contracts out here, but if you look at the top 5 or so at each position there are very few of them that you could objectively say are worth it.
Your OTs are worth paying as well.

Look at what the Cardinals strafing Fisher and Schwartz did to our offense in the 2nd half.

If pass rushers are worth paying, then the guys that slow them down are worth paying as well.

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Obviously a generational talent at other positions like Donald at DT or even someone like Keuchly at MLB could be worth it as well, but Andy's 'shell' concept has never been more accurate than it is today.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:02 AM   #3
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Your OTs are worth paying as well.

Look at what the Cardinals strafing Fisher and Schwartz did to our offense in the 2nd half.

If pass rushers are worth paying, then the guys that slow them down are worth paying as well.

QB
LT
RT
Edge
WR

Obviously a generational talent at other positions like Donald at DT or even someone like Keuchly at MLB could be worth it as well, but Andy's 'shell' concept has never been more accurate than it is today.
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