Taste the tears of crybabies crying about the referees

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I, too, noticed that there was a play that should have been called intentional grounding and the refs missed it. I said as much during the game. And wondered why the commentators didn't mention anything about it.

That play is interesting. He technically was out of the pocket (outside the original tackle box even though the RT had kicked out to the right of Lamar by the time he threw) and the ball passes out of bounds 2-4 yards behind the LOS.

It LANDS out of bounds, 5 yards past the LOS.

So what counts for a pass thrown away from outside the pocket?

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That play is interesting. He technically was out of the pocket (outside the original tackle box even though the RT had kicked out to the right of Lamar by the time he threw) and the ball passes out of bounds 2-4 yards behind the LOS.

It LANDS out of bounds, 5 yards past the LOS.

So what counts for a pass thrown away from outside the pocket?

The OB distance counts, so no IG.

Second time LJ did it, the ball was tipped, or it would have been IG.

[redfan]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

The OB distance counts, so no IG.

Second time LJ did it, the ball was tipped, or it would have been IG.

I missed the tip on #2 and was starting to get annoyed.
Lamer used up about 5 seasons worth of luck in this game.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

The OB distance counts, so no IG.

Second time LJ did it, the ball was tipped, or it would have been IG.

I was wondering about the rule on this. So Lamar was going down and chucked it to no receiver to avoid the sack but it hit our player so no grounding?

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by philfree

I was wondering about the rule on this. So Lamar was going down and chucked it to no receiver to avoid the sack but it hit our player so no grounding?

Item 2. Physical Contact. Intentional grounding should not be called if:

the passer initiates his passing motion toward an eligible receiver and then is significantly affected by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the pass to land in an area that is not in the direction and vicinity of an eligible receiver;

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

Item 2. Physical Contact. Intentional grounding should not be called if:

the passer initiates his passing motion toward an eligible receiver and then is significantly affected by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the pass to land in an area that is not in the direction and vicinity of an eligible receiver;

Okay but I don't believe that's what happened. Contact had been made and he was going down before he started his throwing motion. He chucked it just before his knee hit the ground and it hit one of our players pretty much in the hands and face. And that player wasn't the guy sacking him.

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by philfree

Okay but I don't believe that's what happened. Contact had been made and he was going down before he started his throwing motion. He chucked it just before his knee hit the ground and it hit one of our players pretty much in the hands and face. And that player wasn't the guy sacking him.

The intentional grounding throw hit a Chiefs player, i.e., was significantly affected by a defensive player, so no IG, because it raises the argument of whether or not it would/could have made it to the LOS.

If it hadn't hit a Chief, it was definitely IG.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

The intentional grounding throw hit a Chiefs player, i.e., was significantly affected by a defensive player, so no IG, because it raises the argument of whether or not it would/could have made it to the LOS.

If it hadn't hit a Chief, it was definitely IG.

I don't know if it was Tranquill or somebody else but it's too bad it wasn't picked and run in for 6.

Edit: It was McDuffy