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Old 03-26-2012, 10:46 PM  
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Late night bullshit: Safety depth.
This team needs a lot of different pieces in the draft, but one place that it's particularly hurting is for depth behind Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis. My desire for Mark Barron in the draft notwithstanding, this is a damn good starting safety combo, but safety is always an injury prone position.

Add into that the prevalence of the Chiefs' subpackages, and extra safeties are necessary.

The backup safety position on this team is atrocious. Donald Washington and Rashard Langford will stay alive on this roster only by blowing shit up on special teams, and not by staying on the field during defensive snaps.

Jon McGraw is a serviceable guy because of his decent-enough instincts, but only at the less-physical position of free safety, and only in bits and pieces. He remains incredibly popular in the locker room, and I'm willing to accept that.

Now, safety is one of the weakest positions in this draft, but let's use this thread as an opportunity to talk about some of our favorite mid-to-late round safety prospects, since we can expect the Chiefs to pick up at least one in the draft.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:59 AM   #16
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Berry was out the season and the Chiefs were still 6th in pass defense at the end of the year. We need safety depth but our coaching in the defensive backfield is a huge bonus.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:00 AM   #17
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:14 AM   #18
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:54 AM   #19
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as of right now we dont even have McGraw under contract that's how bad our safety depth is
I'm ok with taking that risk for now...
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:39 AM   #20
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Mcgraw isn't nearly as bad as you guys make him out to be. He isn't super gifted, but you could tell the difference when he was and wasn't in there last year.

He's a quality backup and i hope we keep him.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:30 AM   #21
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Mcgraw isn't nearly as bad as you guys make him out to be. He isn't super gifted, but you could tell the difference when he was and wasn't in there last year.

He's a quality backup and i hope we keep him.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:32 AM   #22
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Is Jim Leonard done?

He's had some injury issues but was a pretty solid safety for the Jets. He'd make nice veteran depth.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:45 AM   #23
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:48 AM   #24
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:07 PM   #25
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I completely agree we should trade down and draft Barron. I think safety might be our biggest need after QB and NT and the best value in the 1st rd.

Especially when you consider the safety position has more injuries and plays reserves more than the other positions being looked at, plus the QB's we have to face, especially in our division.

Look at the player and position who is the weakest, and who makes you cringe when they are on the field giving up a big play? Between the guys you want to replace:

-Belcher
-Lilja
-Lewis or with 3 safties Donald Washington/Kyle McCarthy. Last year- reserves McGraw/Langsford/Sabby Pissmyself saw wayyyy too much playing time.

Rookies being looked at who you would want to replace them with:

-Kuechly
-DeCastro
-Barron

I think Belcher and Lilja could easily be lived with on the field and are capable of playing a more than average ability, while the safety position holds the bigger weakness at the reserve and 3 safety sets.

If we are able to trade back we could get an extra pick and then NT should probably be the next position looked at. We need some beef in the middle pretty desperately. We could use 1 or 2 of these guys:


-Alameda Ta'amu, Washington, Height: 6-3 Weight: 348 Projected Round: 2-3
-Josh Chapman, Alabama, Height: 6-1 Weight: 316 Projected Round: 2-4
-Nick Jean-Baptiste, Baylor, Height: 6-1 Weight: 335 Projected Round: 3-5
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:09 PM   #26
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Even if we are stuck at 11 and can't move down, Barron wouldn't be a bad pick IMO.

Obviously though, our best case scenario would be to move back and get him.
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The more I see him the I think a safety duo of SS Mark Barron and FS of Eric Berry would reek havoc on both the run and the pass.

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Is Jim Leonard done?

He's had some injury issues but was a pretty solid safety for the Jets. He'd make nice veteran depth.
Not sure he'd be ready this season. He tore his knee up against us last year.
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Mcgraw isn't nearly as bad as you guys make him out to be. He isn't super gifted, but you could tell the difference when he was and wasn't in there last year.

He's a quality backup and i hope we keep him.
Just don't expect him to stay with a TE.
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