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Old 11-26-2018, 09:19 PM   #1
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The Royals hired Matheny so it is a Cardinals thread.

I like Moore but some of his decisions...


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Yeah..if Matheny becomes manager Illl give a shit then. If Ned Yost can go to back to back WS I guess anyone can though. The guy was "Matheny" here until that 2.5 year lights out run.
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Old 11-27-2018, 07:46 AM   #2
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@Royals: We have claimed RHP Connor Greene off of outright waivers from the Cardinals. In a corresponding move, we have designated RHP Burch Smith for assignment.
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:20 PM   #3
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Did anyone hear the interview with Moose this morning? He was on with Bob F. I just can't stand to listen to that guy. Did he say anything of note?
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:33 AM   #4
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The Mariners are having a full-on fire sale and I don’t get it.

At least the returns they’re settling on.

They did pretty well in the swap with the Mets... but this Segura trade rumor doesn’t make sense to me.

Segura is 28 and a top 10 SS, with four affordable years left ... and they’re moving him for J.P. Crawford and taking on the last year of Carlis Santana to boot?

Can’t tell if they’re just off the reservation or what, but it doesn’t probably help the Merrifield trade return. He and Segura are similar offensive players, though Segura is much more expensive.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:08 AM   #5
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The Mariners are having a full-on fire sale and I don’t get it.

At least the returns they’re settling on.

They did pretty well in the swap with the Mets... but this Segura trade rumor doesn’t make sense to me.

Segura is 28 and a top 10 SS, with four affordable years left ... and they’re moving him for J.P. Crawford and taking on the last year of Carlis Santana to boot?

Can’t tell if they’re just off the reservation or what, but it doesn’t probably help the Merrifield trade return. He and Segura are similar offensive players, though Segura is much more expensive.
Seems like an owner forced fire-sale.

But at least when it comes to Segura, the word is from M's fans is that he's not on speaking terms with half of his locker room after that crazy, all-out brawl he had with Dee Gordon in the locker room this September. Feels like they're looking for a... "Marcus Peters" esque return to get him out.

It also might be telling that this will now be his fourth organization - he's starting to have some of the "weird" movement that Valencia had. Trades and DFA's that would happen in spite of solid production.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:40 PM   #6
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The Indians traded Yan Gomes to Washington. I'm curious what other trades they'll end up making. I completely agree with their strategy of trading off players and getting the rebuild started before everyone walks and the cupboard is bare. It's how you expedite the rebuild and avoid 5-7 years of building like we're forced to go through.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:42 PM   #7
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The Indians traded Yan Gomes to Washington. I'm curious what other trades they'll end up making. I completely agree with their strategy of trading off players and getting the rebuild started before everyone walks and the cupboard is bare. It's how you expedite the rebuild and avoid 5-7 years of building like we're forced to go through.
The Indians aren't coming off back-to-back World Series appearances and a WS Title.

I'm not surprised that you don't see the difference here though.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:48 PM   #8
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The Indians aren't coming off back-to-back World Series appearances and a WS Title.

I'm not surprised that you don't see the difference here though.
kcchiefsus was bitching during the WS runs. He is a complete waste of space.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:52 PM   #9
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The Indians aren't coming off back-to-back World Series appearances and a WS Title.

I'm not surprised that you don't see the difference here though.
What difference does that make? When freaking Matheny is our manager next year, you still going to be defending Moore with the same BS? Why is Dayton Moore beyond reproach around here? How long do we have to go before the WS win finally loses its luster, and Moore is finally judged on his performance since then (and performance in the draft even before the WS)?
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:57 PM   #10
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What difference does that make? When freaking Matheny is our manager next year, you still going to be defending Moore with the same BS? Why is Dayton Moore beyond reproach around here? How long do we have to go before the WS win finally loses its luster, and Moore is finally judged on his performance since then (and performance in the draft even before the WS)?

He’s not beyond reproach. If/when he predictably elevates Matheny to replace Yost as manager, I don’t think any around here will avoid criticizing him.

In fact, as I’ve stated here in the past few weeks, it will run through the rest of the leash I’m allowing.

I’m willing to be patient and give some leeway and apply some context and understanding... but there is none that explains elevating Matheny.
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:47 PM   #11
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The Indians traded Yan Gomes to Washington. I'm curious what other trades they'll end up making. I completely agree with their strategy of trading off players and getting the rebuild started before everyone walks and the cupboard is bare. It's how you expedite the rebuild and avoid 5-7 years of building like we're forced to go through.

They may move one of their front of rotation guys (Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer) but I don’t expect much else.

Gomes was expensive and they didn’t get much back in return at all. I don’t believe either of the prospects received made the Indians top 10 guys.

They’re also not doing a full tear down. They’re trying to selectively sell a few pieces here and there to shed payroll.

That may be to clear some payroll for a Lindor extension or extend their window... but they’re also not making moves that are going to allow them to close this window with a title unless something fluky happens.

So they’ll walk about with 5-6 division titles in a decade, with one WS appearance and no wins.

Wouldn’t trade two WS and a title for that, no matter what the rest of the decade shows.
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:43 PM   #13
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Dude you got your ass kicked on this by Cards fans and then hid from this thread for a while. Probably best to let this one go.
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Old 12-03-2018, 04:39 PM   #14
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Dude you got your ass kicked on this by Cards fans and then hid from this thread for a while. Probably best to let this one go.
Hey fuckface - show me exactly where I got "my ass kicked by Cards fans".


I just went thru this whole thread and didn't see jack shit. Put up or shut the f---up.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:27 PM   #15
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Hey ****face - show me exactly where I got "my ass kicked by Cards fans".


I just went thru this whole thread and didn't see jack shit. Put up or shut the f---up.
Dude, you can't say my "stupidity is at an all time low" by "voicing rumors that have never been proven", while multiple Cardinal fans have come in and talked about how the Bible Studies were confirmed by multiple beat writers.

I've let this kind of thing slide before. You repeatedly called me a dumb**** for predicting that James Shields would slip to "Guthrie like production" before 2016 and I never really took you to task about it.

Own up like you demanded Duncan do about Kennedy or let it go, man.

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