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Old 02-18-2013, 01:33 PM  
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****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread**** (OP UPDATED)

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The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

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Old 02-18-2013, 11:45 PM   #391
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I don't understand why you people can just turn it off like that.

Even if we trade for Nick Foles, I'll be excited come opening day, if only for the hope that he's a diamond in the rough.

At least he has a big arm. That's more than Cassel can say.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:47 PM   #392
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:48 PM   #394
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I don't understand why you people can just turn it off like that.

Even if we trade for Nick Foles, I'll be excited come opening day, if only for the hope that he's a diamond in the rough.

At least he has a big arm. That's more than Cassel can say.
With shit accuracy. Even that, it doesn't matter to me. I'm tired of looking for a diamond in the rough.


I'm tired of being a fan of a franchise that treats the most important position liek that, always looking for a diamond int he rough or value.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:48 PM   #395
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I don't understand why you people can just turn it off like that.

Even if we trade for Nick Foles, I'll be excited come opening day, if only for the hope that he's a diamond in the rough.

At least he has a big arm. That's more than Cassel can say.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:48 PM   #396
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If they trade for Foles.....he gets 3 games.
And then we start arguing with the people invoking "BUT TRENT GREEN"
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And then we start arguing with the people invoking "BUT TRENT GREEN"
With the way rookies are coming in the league these days, even guys like Andy Dalton, there's no way he shoudl get that kind of leash.
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With the way rookies are coming in the league these days, even guys like Andy Dalton, there's no way he shoudl get that kind of leash.
Andy Dalton threw for 332 yards in his 2nd game.

Yup, the bar is set.
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Andy Dalton threw for 332 yards in his 2nd game.

Yup, the bar is set.
I was talking about Foles getting that kind of leash, when we could have taken a rookie as they come into the league more ready than ever.
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Dalton has posted two winning seasons, thrown for 7000 yards, posted a nearly 2:1 TD/INT ratio, and made the playoffs twice in the Steelers and Ravens division. I've said it earlier but we would be extremely lucky if any of these QBs has that kind of success.
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I don't understand why you people can just turn it off like that.

Even if we trade for Nick Foles, I'll be excited come opening day, if only for the hope that he's a diamond in the rough.

At least he has a big arm. That's more than Cassel can say.
We deserve better.

For me, it's not a "switch" it's a dimmer bar and mines already towards the bottom.

There's a little light left right now hoping that these guys do the right thing and draft Geno or Barkley...shit I could get excited about Wilson or Glennon even, if they don't try, the lights going off for awhile until there is reason for excitement.
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After going through what this fan base has over the last ...well...forever...it shouldn't take anyone here more than a first draft/offseason to see the intent and the inherent intelligence (or lack therof) of the front office.

I'm not gonna go through another "we got our Tom Brady AND our own Richard Seymour in the same offseason" start again.

I'll wait till a new movie starts to play before I buy another ticket because I've already seen this sad shitty movie too many times .
I wouldn't go see another Star Wars movie that was written and directed by George Lucas. I HAVE seen that movie before, I love Star Wars too much to pay to see his vision anymore. But now that J J Abrams is on board, I can't wait, even if Abrams says he has an interesting idea for bringing back Jar Jar, I'll still trust him.

I trust Reid and Dorsey, I will after the draft, even if we go OL. I don't see any way we don't have at least two new QBs, and I'll be excited to see what happens.
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You guys are sticking to the Dalton name, when all I meant was a second round rookie. You are actually proving my point.


Why trade for someone when we can get a rookie to do that?
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I wouldn't go see another Star Wars movie that was written and directed by George Lucas. I HAVE seen that movie before, I love Star Wars too much to pay to see his vision anymore. But now that J J Abrams is on board, I can't wait, even if Abrams says he has an interesting idea for bringing back Jar Jar, I'll still trust him.

I trust Reid and Dorsey, I will after the draft, even if we go OL. I don't see any way we don't have at least two new QBs, and I'll be excited to see what happens.
I know you are a big Foles fan, but if those two new QB's are Foles and Landry Jones, you may be watching that movie alone.
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You can't necessarily get a rookie to do that. That's a pretty high bar to set. Cam Newton didn't do it. Jake Locker didn't do it. Ponder didn't do it. Freeman didn't do it. Bradford didn't do it.
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