***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[suzzer99]

Texas requires the polio, MMR, TDAP, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and varicella (chickenpox) vaccines for all students in school.

[Of course Rep Roy is from Maryland and may not know this but it’s required there too] https://t.co/2F22X7mNHg

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 7, 2021

I'm curious how anti-covid-vaxxers feel about this.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Feigl-Ding approved.

Folks—there is only one doctor I know who has fought #COVID19 on the front lines during **all 3 peaks/surges** from NYC to Arizona: @Cleavon_MD. He’s most mad that �� are full, restaurants still full, HCWs begging for masks, while many refuse to wear any! pic.twitter.com/o3fYYQ9MKi

— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) November 29, 2020

However, you don't get to join the ranks of the elite until you call one of the variants something awesome like "The Beast" or "Bone-Crusher".

Why are you posting something Dr. Ding posted back in November?

Better yet why are you posting anything Dr. Ding says at all?

[Bearcat]

What's the exercise here? We're supposed to be shaming a doctor who's exhausted and emotionally wrecked from watching other people die for the past year and a half? Using a doctor's candid reaction as some kind of no one believes my bullshit, so here's some fear porn!!!1111!!!?

Nice.

[suzzer99]

Update: Child hospitalizations are at their highest point of the whole pandemic, with >1450 children hospitalized in the past week https://t.co/wmad4Nyo7t pic.twitter.com/0o4F6IgyZ7

— Julia Raifman (@JuliaRaifman) August 7, 2021

This sucks.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

���� 27 y.o. Guillermo Javier Migliorini Izurieta from Mar del Plata, Argentina died from COVID despite receiving one dose of the Sinopharm? vaccine. The teacher posted frustrations about unventilated classrooms & selfishness of ppl. #SoulsLostToCovid�� 6/40https://t.co/Tx7ukqjVhZ pic.twitter.com/bEfOkTLlJG

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 10, 2021

����30 y.o. Stephania Gómez, Exatlón MX high-performance athlete participant from Chiapas, Mexico died from COVID on 6/1/2021. She was a biologist, practiced crossfit and placed third in the Jiu Jitsu world championship in 2018. #SoulsLostToCovid 18/40 https://t.co/HEmIySauor pic.twitter.com/4StBrV5uvW

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 19, 2021

���� 25 y.o. football star Deibert Frans Roman Guzmán from Beni, #Bolivia died from COVID. His father Belizario Roman, the former president of the club & uncle also died. The footballing trio lived in the same house with family. #SoulsLostToCovid 40/40 https://t.co/v5kD7J87se pic.twitter.com/gAyj1SE3I9

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 21, 2021

���� 27 y.o. Michael Ojo, former @FSUHoops center died from COVID on 9/27/2020. He was playing overseas in Serbia when he contracted the virus. He tried to bounce back, but was still short of breath, then collapsed & died during practice #SoulsLostToCovid https://t.co/leOKCggwkY… pic.twitter.com/cQun9DGziG

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 19, 2021

Clearly common sense says these people didn't need to get vaccinated. I can post 100s more of these. All healthy, all in their 20s or 30s. Just follow the thread.

What is the purpose of these stories?

[suzzer99]

Mahomes Magic said it's common sense that a healthy 25-year-old shouldn't get vaccinated. He thinks the risks of the vaccine outweigh the risks of getting seriously ill with covid. Apparently in his disinformation bubble nobody young and healthy goes to the hospital or dies of covid. Just seeing if maybe I can pierce that bubble a bit.

[suzzer99]

Every highly vaccinated state has below average Covid-19 hospitalizations, while hospitalizations and deaths are rising more in places with weaker vaccination rates, a WSJ analysis found https://t.co/PvjJGlFSGv

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) August 7, 2021

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Every highly vaccinated state has below average Covid-19 hospitalizations, while hospitalizations and deaths are rising more in places with weaker vaccination rates, a WSJ analysis found https://t.co/PvjJGlFSGv

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) August 7, 2021

It's like the vaccine thing works

[suzzer99]

But Joe Rogan said I don't need it. So who are you gonna believe?

[suzzer99]

Missouri taxi company refuses vaccinated, masked customers

The owner of a Missouri taxi company said his transportation service will not pick up passengers who wear masks or have received the COVID-19 vaccine, despite a surge of new cases in the state.

“We don't allow any type of masks in our vehicles. The second one, we're very against the vaccines, and we do not wish to have people in our vehicle that did the vaccines,” owner Charlie Bullington told KMOV in an interview that was published on Thursday.

According to the taxi service’s website, Yo Transportation operates in Franklin, Jefferson, Lincoln, Montgomery, St. Charles, St. Louis and Warren counties. KMOV reported that the business has operated for 16 years.

During the interview, Bullington also said, “I understand Missouri is one of the top three states with the lowest vaccination rate, so I am proud of all the Missouri people for standing against this.”

According to Becker’s Hospital Review, as of Friday, Missouri actually ranked 39th among states based on percentage of population fully vaccinated. According to data from Johns Hopkins University, about 42 percent of the state’s population is fully vaccinated.

Customers on Yelp and Google have complained about anti-masking messaging they received from the company, the Riverfront Times reported.

One reviewer who said they were denied a ride said the driver texted them multiple times afterward.

"This man spent 2 hours harassing me via text about his anti mask nonsense. I had to ask him three times to leave me alone," the reviewer said, the Riverfront Times reported.

Despite Bullington’s controversial policies, Missouri is fighting a wave of new COVID-19 cases. The state saw 3,257 new cases on Thursday, compared with hundreds in late May and June.

The Hill has reached out to Yo Transportation for comment.

Missouri!

[suzzer99]

Here's a photo from the Rebublican Liberty Caucus of Texas. 3 of the 6 men in this pic have died of Covid this year. (Dave Nalle, Jeff LeBlanc, and now H Scott Apley)https://t.co/RVCE2I2NW0 pic.twitter.com/BCtnfjrW0q

— Elan McMillin (@ElanMcMillin) August 4, 2021

Maybe just get the vaccine and pick another hill to (literally) die on?

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Missouri taxi company refuses vaccinated, masked customers



Missouri!

WTF?!

[Otter]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

But Joe Rogan said I don't need it. So who are you gonna believe?

Joe Rogan sure has you in a hissy fit about this doesn't he? It has to be like the 10th time you brought him up in this thread.

I for one always consult stand up comedians for my medical advice.

[suzzer99]

He has like 20 million followers. Almost all of them dudes who don't trust official sources and "do their own research". He's insanely influential. He's like the male Oprah.

I actually like the guy as a comedian and mostly as a person. NewsRadio is my favorite TV show of all time - so I'll always have a soft spot for any cast member. I just wish he'd take is position a little more seriously.

If he was just some random jackass with 200k listeners it would be fine to host every crackpot conspiracy out there. As it is, people are literally dying because Rogan is telling them they don't need the vaccine.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

. As it is, people are literally dying because Rogan is telling them they don't need the vaccine.

false narrative.