***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BeMyValentine

If you had your choice of the Covid-19 Vaccine, what would be your choice today.

I am curious if this would change over time. The J&J seems to be the winner as of today??

As someone who got J&J, the drawback is that it's much less common, so the data on its effectiveness is much more limited than the others. It's nice to be one and done though.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by BeMyValentine

If you had your choice of the Covid-19 Vaccine, what would be your choice today.

I am curious if this would change over time. The J&J seems to be the winner as of today??

They seem to think J&J is least effective of options against Delta variants. So if Delta has you getting vaccinated, probably not your best option.

Moderna seems to track best against Delta so far (though they’re all effective at reducing symptoms).

[TLO]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

They seem to think J&J is least effective of options against Delta variants. So if Delta has you getting vaccinated, probably not your best option.

Moderna seems to track best against Delta so far (though they’re all effective at reducing symptoms).

Depends on what study you look at.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Red Beans

Well where the **** should she be placing her anger, oh wise and glorious emaw?

Originally Posted by BeMyValentine

If you had your choice of the Covid-19 Vaccine, what would be your choice today.

I am curious if this would change over time. The J&J seems to be the winner as of today??

Lolwut? J&J is by far the clear loser.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by O.city

FDA fully approved pfizer

Now what's the excuse going to be?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by loochy

Now what's the excuse going to be?

FoxNews is asking if the process was rushed. The goalposts are on the move.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

FoxNews is asking if the process was rushed. The goalposts are on the move.

The "but do you trust the FDA?" Will be the excuse now to not get a vaccine.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

FoxNews is asking if the process was rushed. The goalposts are on the move.

I mean, that clip is a fair question to pose.

[TLO]

I like how vaccine efficacy is now somewhere between 16%-95% depending on which study you read.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I mean, that clip is a fair question to pose.

Everything is a fair question to pose. It's a passive-aggressive way of shifting the goalposts from "this thing isn't even FDA approved yet", which they were spouting as little as two weeks ago.

Is KCrockaholic having a clandestine love affair with Billay? I don't know. But people are asking.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Everything is a fair question to pose. It's a passive-aggressive way of shifting the goalposts from "this thing isn't even FDA approved yet", which they were spouting as little as two weeks ago.

Is KCrockaholic having a clandestine love affair with Billay? I don't know. But people are asking.

No, keep Billay's ass away from me.

[suzzer99]

Hey I'm just asking the question that's on everyone's mind (now that I planted it in their minds to begin with).

See how that works?

But why was the vaccine approved now?
Were they pressured by President Biden?
Who benefits from this?
Can I even trust the FDA now, after all this?
Who does the FDA answer to?

I am just asking questions. Why am I not allowed questions? What are they scared of?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by emaw1979

Fauci

Well, at least you fully understand how stupid you are.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Fish

I have several family members who have seen 5+ doctors this year, just to find one that will agree with their opinion of the vaccine. One cousin is driving over 2 hrs across KS to see the one quack that agreed with her hesitancy regarding the vaccine. The doctors that told her the vaccines were safe and she should get it, well those doctors were "Paid for" in her opinion and she couldn't trust them. She's on Facebook encouraging her other nutty friends to go see Dr. X, because he knows his stuff and told her she's right about her fears.

Some people don't want facts, they only want someone to agree with their beliefs.

Okay then....they don't feel comfortable with it for whatever reason, it's their life and choice. What else are you going to do? I am vaxxed so I don't care if the person next to me is or isn't. I respect their decision. Why would I throw a fit or jump up and down or scream at them? To what end? When have people GOS what others do regarding vaccines until now? Who is gaining from dividing everybody on yet another personal issue?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Everything is a fair question to pose. It's a passive-aggressive way of shifting the goalposts from "this thing isn't even FDA approved yet", which they were spouting as little as two weeks ago.

Is KCrockaholic having a clandestine love affair with Billay? I don't know. But people are asking.

It's a fair question.