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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:15 PM   #841
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I dont think bowe has the same skill at getting open that fitz does.
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Bowe was targeted 125 times.

Fitz was targeted 168 times.

Bowe saw fewer passes coming his way, and had more yards and more TD.

Bowe is pretty ****ing good.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:16 PM   #842
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Charles ran for 1400 yards and 6.4 ypc that year as well. Bowe was very good in 2010 but the Chiefs were run 1st with Charles blowing up record books.

Arizona throws and everyone knows that the offense runs through Fitzgerald. Last year he put up 1400 yard with 17.6 ypc. I just don't see Bowe doing that with being the center of attention.
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All of our other weapons got hurt and Bowe still had around 1200 yards with total crap throwing him the ball.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:18 PM   #843
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Charles
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All of our otter weapons got hurt and Bowe still had around 1200 yards with total crap throwing him the ball.
Yep, this is why he got a higher rating in 2011.

Production remained constant with Tyler Palko slinging 27% of the passes the Chiefs threw.

Pretty remarkable.

*insert GIF of Bowe's diving 26-yard catch against the Steelers*
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:18 PM   #844
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Did we forget Fitzy plays in the NFC west? That's some kind of huge factor according to some around here.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:19 PM   #845
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Charles
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All of our otter weapons got hurt and Bowe still had around 1200 yards with total crap throwing him the ball.
Ok?

What did Fitz have last year?

My point is I don't think Bowe can be put in the same situation as Fitzgerald and show the same results because I believe its easier to shut down Bowe than it is Fitzgerald. That's why Fitzgerald is elite and Bowe is a tier below.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:19 PM   #846
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Bowe was targeted 125 times.

Fitz was targeted 168 times.

Bowe saw fewer passes coming his way, and had more yards and more TD.

Bowe is pretty ****ing good.
That has nothing to do with what i said. Bowe is better at yac i think but just getting open in general has been an issue for all of our wr's not just bowe... To be fair
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:20 PM   #847
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Did we forget Fitzy plays in the NFC west? That's some kind of huge factor according to some around here.
Seems to be when it comes to cassel
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:21 PM   #848
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We have a QB(s) who doesn't know when a receiver is open, FWIW.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:22 PM   #849
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And yeah, let's not forget that Bowe played against Champ Bailey, Nnamdi Asomugha, and Quentin Jammer twice a year for most of his career.

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You put Boldin in a similar situation to Bowe, #1 receiver on a run based team, but with a better QB, and I bet he doesn't break 900 yards receiving.










Oh, wait, he's already there.
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We have a QB(s) who doesn't know when a receiver is open, FWIW.
Gee bowe gets all these yards and yet cassel cant throw a pass.
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Gee bowe gets all these yards and yet cassel cant throw a pass.
*insert GIF or Bowe running wide open against the Ravens*
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Gee bowe gets all these yards and yet cassel cant throw a pass.
Stop before you make a complete ass of yourself.
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*insert GIF or Bowe running wide open against the Ravens*
your point?
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Stop before you make a complete ass of yourself.
I am just saying that Bowe gets all these yards and people are comparing him to the best in the league yet when it comes to the guy throwing him the ball we have the worst in the league. Seems to me it can't be both...most likley Cassel isn't quite as bad as some say.
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