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Old 03-28-2019, 08:06 AM  
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*** Official 2019 Kansas City Royals Repository ***
Get the offseason thread out of here. It's on!

Opening day roster:

Catchers (2): Cam Gallagher, Martin Maldonado

Infielders (7): Hunter Dozier, Lucas Duda, Whit Merrifield, Adalberto Mondesi, Ryan O’Hearn, Chris Owings, Frank Schwindel

Outfielders (4): Alex Gordon, Terrance Gore, Billy Hamilton, Jorge Soler

Starting pitchers (3): Jakob Junis, Brad Keller, Jorge Lopez

Relief pitchers (9): Scott Barlow, Brad Boxberger, Jake Diekman, Chris Ellis, Tim Hill, Ian Kennedy, Kevin McCarthy, Wily Peralta, Kyle Zimmer

Injured list: Danny Duffy, Brian Flynn, Jesse Hahn, Salvador Perez

Suspended: Eric Skoglund
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Old 07-15-2019, 08:39 AM   #2431
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Is the "return they need" an entire pitching staff?

Close!

It would need to look, loosely, like the Adam Eaton trade. Which was:

1) top 25 prospect (Lucas Giolito, SP)
2) top 50-75 prospect (Reynaldo Lopez, SP)
3) top 100 fringe prospect (Dane Dunning, SP)

So the Royals need an elite guy, a near elite guy, and a guy on the verge of being a consensus top prospect to move Merrifield. IMO.

The Dodgers and the Braves have the juice to make that happen and the need/fit for Merrifield. Not sure either will be motivated to buy at that level.
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:42 AM   #2432
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:49 AM   #2433
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I’m just trying to get everyone in the lineup. They’re not going to release Gordon outright (nor do I really think they should) and Merrifield can slide over to 1B at the expense of Duda (who can kindly get the **** out).

The purposes he serves are as follows:

1) he’s not blocking anyone right now (except Lucas Duda, who can kindly get the **** out)
2) he’s the exact kind of veteran you do want around young players. He works hard, plays hard, has experienced lows and highs.
3) He’s one of the best players in team history and can block any trade they try. There’s a “good faith” value to both fans and his younger teammates to keeping him around.
What's a Gordon contract look like after this year?
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:50 AM   #2434
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What's a Gordon contract look like after this year?
It doesn’t concern the royals so kinda irrelevant
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:52 AM   #2435
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It doesn’t concern the royals so kinda irrelevant
Oh, okay, thanks..........
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:59 AM   #2436
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Eaton was 2.5 years younger.
What did his contract look like?
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What did his contract look like?
It looked 2.5 years older
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:06 AM   #2438
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It looked 2.5 years older

It was 3/$20 million, with two team options for $20 million total. All in, it was a 5/$50 million commitment. Compare that to 4/$30 million and your projected surplus value is probably pretty similar, even with the aging curve.

Yes, Eaton was younger. He also was less versatile and had never OPSed over .800.

The point is that’s the type of blow-away deal it would take the Royals to move Merrifield. And I don’t blame them for that. It might be a little lighter, but it would need to be similar.

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What's a Gordon contract look like after this year?

I don’t know. And I don’t know I really want KC to consider it.

But 2/$15 million or something like that. There’s value in bringing up prospects and not expecting them to be lineup linchpins from Day 1.

If he ends up having a strong overall year, I think the team will have interest in bringing him back. OF gets crowded if Starling and Phillips perform well enough to earn starting spots next year. I’m not sure thats a guarantee.

Depending on what 1B is looking like, that might also be an option for Alex to get some PT if brought back.

Lot of moving parts there.
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So I'm reading Barlow is likely getting the call up. Lovelady and Zimmer just never going to get the chance? What gives?
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So I'm reading Barlow is likely getting the call up. Lovelady and Zimmer just never going to get the chance? What gives?
Because we don't want to win this year.
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So I'm reading Barlow is likely getting the call up. Lovelady and Zimmer just never going to get the chance? What gives?
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I'm curious to hear thoughts on the Royals supposedly holding out for three MLB ready prospects for Merrifield. I have no problem holding out for a high return, but why MLB ready? That screams of sacrificing higher upside talent in AA for lower upside pieces who can contribute now. IMO that's how you end up with Mark Teahen and John Buck.
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I'm curious to hear thoughts on the Royals supposedly holding out for three MLB ready prospects for Merrifield. I have no problem holding out for a high return, but why MLB ready? That screams of sacrificing higher upside talent in AA for lower upside pieces who can contribute now. IMO that's how you end up with Mark Teahen and John Buck.
Not necessarily. Giolito came up the year after he was traded, he was pretty much major league ready. That's exactly what they should be looking for. No way should they trade Whit for someone in A ball unless they are a dead set surefire lock.

The problem is other than Giolito, and Gleyber Torres, there aren't many trades like that in recent years.
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