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Old 02-13-2019, 04:10 PM   #1
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And some industries, like coal and petroleum, will do everything in their power to remain relevant as long as possible. Including spreading disinformation and lobbying congressmen and women. Acting like it isn't happening so we can keep strip-mining, drilling and perpetuating coal and natural gas industries is ridiculously short-sided. Ending our reliance on fossil fuels benefits this country in ways that both Republicans and Democrats can appreciate.

But you're going to have to excuse me for being angry about it when Trump waltzes in and assigns a climate change-denier as the head of the mother ****ing EPA and he predictably shits the bed. See that's going backwards.

Then you look at a company like VW that is overhauling their entire fleet to be electric and that's the kind of bold risk-taking that is necessary.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:15 PM   #2
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And some industries, like coal and petroleum, will do everything in their power to remain relevant as long as possible. Including spreading disinformation and lobbying congressmen and women. Acting like it isn't happening so we can keep strip-mining, drilling and perpetuating coal and natural gas industries is ridiculously short-sided. Ending our reliance on fossil fuels benefits this country in ways that both Republicans and Democrats can appreciate.

But you're going to have to excuse me for being angry about it when Trump waltzes in and assigns a climate change-denier as the head of the mother ****ing EPA and he predictably shits the bed. See that's going backwards.

Then you look at a company like VW that is overhauling their entire fleet to be electric and that's the kind of bold risk-taking that is necessary.
Is that the same VW that recently got fined a billion dollars for programming their cars to fudge the emission numbers?

Bold leadership for the future, there.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:36 PM   #3
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Is that the same VW that recently got fined a billion dollars for programming their cars to fudge the emission numbers?

Bold leadership for the future, there.
That incident is what prompted the change. They completely changed leadership, made Herbert Diess their CEO and then this happened...

https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNe...CN1PV0K4-OCATP


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The biggest strategy shift in Volkswagen’s 80 years has its roots in a weekend crisis meeting at the Rothehof guesthouse in Wolfsburg on October 10, 2015, senior executives told Reuters.

At the meeting hosted by then VW brand chief Herbert Diess, nine top managers gathered on a cloudy Saturday afternoon to discuss the way forward after regulators blew the whistle on the company’s emissions cheating, a scandal that cost it more than 27 billion euros in fines and tainted its name.

“It was an intense discussion, so was the realization that this could be an opportunity, if we jump far enough,” said Juergen Stackmann, VW brand’s board member for sales.

“It was an initial planning session to do more than just play with the idea of electric cars,” he told Reuters. “We asked ourselves: what is our vision for the future of the brand? Everything that you see today is connected to this.”

Just three days after the Rothehof meeting of the VW brand’s management board, Volkswagen announced plans to develop an electric vehicle platform, codenamed MEB, paving the way for mass production of an affordable electric car.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:47 PM   #4
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And some industries, like coal and petroleum, will do everything in their power to remain relevant as long as possible. Including spreading disinformation and lobbying congressmen and women. Acting like it isn't happening so we can keep strip-mining, drilling and perpetuating coal and natural gas industries is ridiculously short-sided. Ending our reliance on fossil fuels benefits this country in ways that both Republicans and Democrats can appreciate.

But you're going to have to excuse me for being angry about it when Trump waltzes in and assigns a climate change-denier as the head of the mother ****ing EPA and he predictably shits the bed. See that's going backwards.

Then you look at a company like VW that is overhauling their entire fleet to be electric and that's the kind of bold risk-taking that is necessary.
Energy companies have been fighting it for a long time now...

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Exxon Knew about Climate Change almost 40 years ago

A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-40-years-ago/
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