***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And it isn't....not even top 20

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21st now. Up from 28 last week when you were boasting Peter.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

21st now. Up from 28 last week when you were boasting Peter.

And? We aren't a hot spot. Does that somehow upset you or something? It's a good thing we aren't.

JFC you are really ****ed up in the head.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And? We aren't a hot spot. Does that somehow upset you or something? It's a good thing we aren't.

JFC you are really ****ed up in the head.

Peter we keep moving up. You were wrong about this but Lew will still have a drink with you when its over.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Peter we keep moving up. You were wrong about this but Lew will still have a drink with you when its over.

I was wrong? What was I wrong about?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I was wrong? What was I wrong about?

Apparently Billay thinks the trend can only go up.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Apparently Billay thinks the trend can only go up.

I guess. I mean never mind the growth rate for new cases in the entire state has slowed over the last several days...we moved up and even though we aren't even in the top 20 as I stated, somehow we are are a hot spot.


But hey, you know I am wrong. We are a hot spot damn it!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Apparently Billay thinks the trend can only go up.

We are 9,000 cases behind Texas which is 10th and still not considered a hot spot. In fact they are talking about re-opening not that I agree nor disagree with that.

We are 19,000 cases behind CA which is still not even being considered a hot spot and they are 5th in total cases.

For total cases per 1m pop we are 27th.

We are nothing close to a hot spot right now.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I guess. I mean never mind the growth rate for new cases in the entire state has slowed over the last several days...we moved up and even though we aren't even in the top 20 as I stated, somehow we are are a hot spot.


But hey, you know I am wrong. We are a hot spot damn it!

Don't you love those people? "We had an enrollment increase of 8% over last year!" Um...it's 2 students.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We are 9,000 cases behind Texas which is 10th and still not considered a hot spot. In fact they are talking about re-opening not that I agree nor disagree with that.

We are 19,000 cases behind CA which is still not even being considered a hot spot and they are 5th in total cases.

For total cases per 1m pop we are 27th.

We are nothing close to a hot spot right now.

As I just noted to Banyon in the other thread, population density = social distancing.

Cases per million residents is a great indicator of whats going on wether its a city, state, or country.

You remove NYC from the US and it looks rather tame all the way around.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

As I just noted to Banyon in the other thread, population density = social distancing.

Cases per million residents is a great indicator of whats going on wether its a city, state, or country.

You remove NYC from the US and it looks rather tame all the way around.

Is NYC an abbreviation for New York Cesspool?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We are 9,000 cases behind Texas which is 10th and still not considered a hot spot. In fact they are talking about re-opening not that I agree nor disagree with that.

We are 19,000 cases behind CA which is still not even being considered a hot spot and they are 5th in total cases.

For total cases per 1m pop we are 27th.

We are nothing close to a hot spot right now.

St Louis concerns me.
KC to a lesser degree.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

As I just noted to Banyon in the other thread, population density = social distancing.

Cases per million residents is a great indicator of whats going on wether its a city, state, or country.

You remove NYC from the US and it looks rather tame all the way around.

There is something do that. 1,000 people died in 48 states vs 2000 died in 50 states. Don't get me wrong, it's too many people either way but yeah I get your point.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

St Louis concerns me.
KC to a lesser degree.

It should as that is where the growth is happening fastest. Franklin county seems to be where the growth is happening the fastest. But statewide things have slowed down over the last few days.

[petegz28]

Using the metrics I have used the top 3 hot spots in relation to MO right now are:

Total Cases:
NY 1
NJ 2
MI 3
MO 21

Total Cases per 1m pop:
NY 1
NJ 2
LA 3
MO 27

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by TLO

We had 2 people hospitalized in St. Joe, now they don't show up on the hospitals count anymore. Hopefully they were discharged...

They were stabbed outside of legends and died.