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Old 02-25-2013, 01:35 PM   #1
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I didn't like Sanchez at all.

I did whiff on Matt Ryan though... I never thought he would be any good.
Is he really that good?

I would have taken Matt Ryan. But I was also convinced that he was more of a game manger than anything else.

So far, that's really what he has been, a high-end game manager.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:39 PM   #2
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Is he really that good?

I would have taken Matt Ryan. But I was also convinced that he was more of a game manger than anything else.

So far, that's really what he has been, a high-end game manager.
I agree. He's not an Elite QB, but he's taken the Falcons a lot further than I thought he would.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:12 PM   #3
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Nobody will trade for Smith because everyone knows they aren't going to pick up his 8 milllion dollar option. They just put that out there to try to get someone to come at them with a trade offer. All they need is one team to fall for it.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:14 PM   #4
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
I was a Stafford guy but thought Sanchez was at least going to be an above average to good starter.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:16 PM   #5
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I was a Stafford guy but thought Sanchez was at least going to be an above average to good starter.


Either accept the bet or pussy out.

Pretending you didn't see my offer is hysterical.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:14 PM   #6
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This idea keeps coming up. All it's going to do is make you angry. You aren't going to ever hire anyone who cares about this kind of history. If Reid and Dorsey are fired in 4 years, the next guy isn't going to care about the mistakes they made. Just like Dorsey doesn't care about Pioli.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:21 PM   #7
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This idea keeps coming up. All it's going to do is make you angry. You aren't going to ever hire anyone who cares about this kind of history. If Reid and Dorsey are fired in 4 years, the next guy isn't going to care about the mistakes they made. Just like Dorsey doesn't care about *****.
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Then that is on Clark Hunt shoulders and he hasn't learned shit from his mistakkes we will never learn as a franchise and correct the wrongs.


We are just going round in circles here.

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Old 02-25-2013, 02:03 PM   #8
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This idea keeps coming up. All it's going to do is make you angry. You aren't going to ever hire anyone who cares about this kind of history. If Reid and Dorsey are fired in 4 years, the next guy isn't going to care about the mistakes they made. Just like Dorsey doesn't care about *****.
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Look at the history. Herm didn't care about Marty's mistakes. Vermeil didn't care about Gunther's mistakes (though Vermeil was primarily a mistake unto himself when it concerned certain aspects of coaching). Pioli didn't care about Carl's mistakes. Carl didn't care about Steadman's mistakes.

Like it or not, when you take over a team, you inherit all the successes and failures of that team's past. And that means it would behoove somebody like Reid and Dorsey to look at the Chiefs and say, "Maybe Alex Smith isn't going to work. Maybe we should go a different direction that they haven't tried before. How about the draft?"
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:05 PM   #9
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Look at the history. Herm didn't care about Marty's mistakes. Vermeil didn't care about Gunther's mistakes (though Vermeil was primarily a mistake unto himself when it concerned certain aspects of coaching). ***** didn't care about Carl's mistakes. Carl didn't care about Steadman's mistakes.

Like it or not, when you take over a team, you inherit all the successes and failures of that team's past. And that means it would behoove somebody like Reid and Dorsey to look at the Chiefs and say, "Maybe Alex Smith isn't going to work. Maybe we should go a different direction that they haven't tried before. How about the draft?"
It may be nice to think it would work that way, but do you really think Andy Reid is going to draw his conclusions based upon the history of the Chiefs, or will he draw them based upon his own personal history as head coach of the Eagles?
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:06 PM   #10
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It may be nice to think it would work that way, but do you really think Andy Reid is going to draw his conclusions based upon the history of the Chiefs, or will he draw them based upon his own personal history as head coach of the Eagles?
In an ideal world, he'd do both.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:06 PM   #11
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Look at the history. Herm didn't care about Marty's mistakes. Vermeil didn't care about Gunther's mistakes (though Vermeil was primarily a mistake unto himself when it concerned certain aspects of coaching). ***** didn't care about Carl's mistakes. Carl didn't care about Steadman's mistakes.

Like it or not, when you take over a team, you inherit all the successes and failures of that team's past. And that means it would behoove somebody like Reid and Dorsey to look at the Chiefs and say, "Maybe Alex Smith isn't going to work. Maybe we should go a different direction that they haven't tried before. How about the draft?"
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #12
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Look at the history. Herm didn't care about Marty's mistakes. Vermeil didn't care about Gunther's mistakes (though Vermeil was primarily a mistake unto himself when it concerned certain aspects of coaching). Pioli didn't care about Carl's mistakes. Carl didn't care about Steadman's mistakes.

Like it or not, when you take over a team, you inherit all the successes and failures of that team's past. And that means it would behoove somebody like Reid and Dorsey to look at the Chiefs and say, "Maybe Alex Smith isn't going to work. Maybe we should go a different direction that they haven't tried before. How about the draft?"
That is all absolutely correct... but nobody is going out there making moves just to avoid repeating what the previous guy did. They're going to do what they think is right. No GM is ever going to draft a QB just because it hasn't been done in 30 years.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:16 PM   #13
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So let's do the bet, then.

Let's do the bet.

Deal?
Sounds good to me. The chiefs will not trade for Alex Smith. It's either going to be Foles or Geno in KC next year
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:18 PM   #14
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Sounds good to me. The chiefs will not trade for Alex Smith. It's either going to be Foles or Geno in KC next year
Awesome.

So free agency starts March 12.

Shall we give it til March 17th? If Alex Smith is not yet on the team at that point, I'll ban myself through the draft.

If he is, you will.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:18 PM   #15
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Either accept the bet or pussy out.

Pretending you didn't see my offer is hysterical.
With all your incessant whining and bitching in this thread I didn't actually see it. Not good at wading through all of that whiny bullshit.
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