Looks like Spagnuolo [favorite for] DC

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Former Giants’ DC and HC Steve Spagnuolo has emerged as the favorite to replace Bob Sutton as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, per sources.

Spagnuolo and Andy Reid worked together in Philadelphia, share the same agent and have a mutual respect for each other’s work.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2019

The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The new nfl demands immediate pressure and speed to counter spread offenses and passes thrown less than 3 seconds. Ryan's defense wants his DL eating space, slow developing blitz pressures, and size over speed. Two signature players in his scheme.... Reggie Ragland and Mike Devito. His scheme is wildly out of date and in Buffalo didn't even attempt to adapt it to the new nfl. There's a reason a successful DC of his calibre isn't even getting calls.

I just completely disagree with this.

It still all starts with stopping the run. Rex Ryan has been damn good with the Ravens and the Jets. He started a transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4, which is why he ultimately failed. His defense still works--look at the Ravens. He's a brilliant football mind and the attitude needed to back it up. He can adjust. He's the most successful defensive coach against NE and Tom Brady (during his prime even) that you will find.

Allegedly, he's gotten offers to get back into it but has turned them down. Maybe he needed a break? If he didn't, it has nothing to do with his ability to coach a defense.

Rex Ryan would coach circles around Spags. Plus, with Ryan, this defense doesn't have to overhaul its front 7. Spags, the Chiefs might take another 2 seasons for this defense to get respectable if he doesn't fail.

On a side note, I had no idea Bill Snyder hired him in 1999. He only stayed for a month before jumping to the Ravens.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

The Chargers defense went from a 3-4 in 2016 to a 4-3 in 2017 and instantly got better. I don’t know that it’s really that big of a deal. A lot of the current players probably fit the 4-3 better anyways.

[ILChief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The Chargers defense went from a 3-4 in 2016 to a 4-3 in 2017 and instantly got better. I don’t know that it’s really that big of a deal. A lot of the current players probably fit the 4-3 better anyways.

Ragland wouldnt be any good. Speaks to DE

Assuming Houston and Ford are back

LB: Ford-Hitchens-Houston
DL: Speaks-Jones-Naadi-?????

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

I just completely disagree with this.

It still all starts with stopping the run. Rex Ryan has been damn good with the Ravens and the Jets. He started a transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4, which is why he ultimately failed. His defense still works--look at the Ravens. He's a brilliant football mind and the attitude needed to back it up. He can adjust. He's the most successful defensive coach against NE and Tom Brady (during his prime even) that you will find.

Allegedly, he's gotten offers to get back into it but has turned them down. Maybe he needed a break? If he didn't, it has nothing to do with his ability to coach a defense.

Rex Ryan would coach circles around Spags. Plus, with Ryan, this defense doesn't have to overhaul its front 7. Spags, the Chiefs might take another 2 seasons for this defense to get respectable if he doesn't fail.

On a side note, I had no idea Bill Snyder hired him in 1999. He only stayed for a month before jumping to the Ravens.

Maybe he can adjust his scheme to adapt. But here's why his defense is way out of date. Many have pointed out that successful defenses of today bring interior pressure, speed off the edges, speed in the back 7. Ryan has shown no interest in any of those things.

Your DL has to IMMEDIATELY push the pocket in and take away the QB's throwing lanes and force him to move. If you don't do that, the ball is out in 2.5 seconds. See Tom Brady. You have to have tons of speed off the edge. Wade Phillips and Fangio understand this. Ryan doesn't. He still has his DL eating up blockers and playing 2-gap. He had a premiere pass rusher in Mario Williams who dominated in Pettine's 3-4 scheme and he decided to use him as a space eater instead. Boy would that be a waste to force Chris Jones to play 2-gap.

Your ILBs have to cover a shitload of space to account for the spread. Fangio, Martindale, Phillips... they all have undersized LBs who can sprint from sideline to sideline. Rex Ryan is the guy who begged his team to draft Reggie Ragland. The exact opposite.

It's been pointed out that Ryan's blitz pressures were built for QBs who used to 5-step and 7-step drop. QBs today play shotgun with 3-step drops.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

As long as he can keep teams under 24 a game we will be alright

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

As long as he can keep teams under 24 a game we will be alright

If he does that we’ll go 19-0

[tk13]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Schefter said Rex Ryan was a candidate for the job the day before the Spags report came out. I’d prefer Sexy Rexy over Spags

That should probably read:

Rex Ryan told his co-worker Schefter to float his name out there so he could create some buzz around his name.

[Rivaldo]

lol this hire. Indistinguishable from his predecessor

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

I just completely disagree with this.

It still all starts with stopping the run. Rex Ryan has been damn good with the Ravens and the Jets. He started a transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4, which is why he ultimately failed. His defense still works--look at the Ravens. He's a brilliant football mind and the attitude needed to back it up. He can adjust. He's the most successful defensive coach against NE and Tom Brady (during his prime even) that you will find.

Allegedly, he's gotten offers to get back into it but has turned them down. Maybe he needed a break? If he didn't, it has nothing to do with his ability to coach a defense.

Rex Ryan would coach circles around Spags. Plus, with Ryan, this defense doesn't have to overhaul its front 7. Spags, the Chiefs might take another 2 seasons for this defense to get respectable if he doesn't fail.

On a side note, I had no idea Bill Snyder hired him in 1999. He only stayed for a month before jumping to the Ravens.

Because this season was so good

[tk13]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

I just completely disagree with this.

It still all starts with stopping the run. Rex Ryan has been damn good with the Ravens and the Jets. He started a transition from the 4-3 to the 3-4, which is why he ultimately failed. His defense still works--look at the Ravens. He's a brilliant football mind and the attitude needed to back it up. He can adjust. He's the most successful defensive coach against NE and Tom Brady (during his prime even) that you will find.

This is not accurate at all. In his last 4 years in New York, he went 1-7 against Brady and his defense allowed an average of 28 points per game.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by ILChief

Ragland wouldnt be any good. Speaks to DE

Assuming Houston and Ford are back

LB: Ford-Hitchens-Houston
DL: Speaks-Jones-Naadi-?????

Ford and Houston are EDGE guys regardless of scheme

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by ILChief

Ragland wouldnt be any good. Speaks to DE



Assuming Houston and Ford are back



LB: Ford-Hitchens-Houston

DL: Speaks-Jones-Naadi-?????

Ford and Houston wouldn’t be linebackers in a 4-3, they would be defensive ends. Ford would be undersized for that role, but if he squeezed in this year the dline would likely be ford, jones, nnadi, houston.

I think hitchens would excel in a move back to a 4-3, and possibly odaniel if he packed on a few lbs. we would most certainly have to add a linebacker through the draft or free agency.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by tk13

This is not accurate at all. In his last 4 years in New York, he went 1-7 against Brady and his defense allowed an average of 28 points per game.

And just for good measure, in Buffalo he went 0-3 against Brady and gave up 34 points per game.

That means over his last 11 games coached against Tom Brady, Rex Ryan is 1-10 and his defenses have allowed exactly 30 points per game.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Any good OLB in free agency?

[Rivaldo]

wat have the Pats averaged points per game in the last 18 years of their dynasty? if we shave .2 points from that total with an astute hire, we will prevail! errr