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Old 01-12-2018, 08:52 AM   #1
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2017: 15th ppg
2016: 7th ppg.
2015: 3ppg

I see a pattern here..and it's not good
To be fair I think we all know now that losing Eric Berry this season hurt this defense a lot more than anyone expected.

You look at the Legion Of Boom when one of their star players goes down whether it is Kam, Thomas or Sherman - the defense isn't the same. Defense isn't like offense when it comes to injuries. It's a very hard in today's NFL to have a good defense if one of your star players goes down for a significant amount of time.
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:51 AM   #2
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It is pathetic watching elements of the fanbase try to defend and justify continued mediocrity.

Bob Sutton should be fired... case closed.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:10 AM   #3
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It is pathetic watching elements of the fanbase try to defend and justify continued mediocrity.

Bob Sutton should be fired... case closed.


Well they did support Herm cause they knew he would fix the defense.

So why does this surprise you?
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:55 AM   #4
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Giving up two of the worst playoff comebacks of all time negates the stats. I don't think any fanbase would disagree and wouldn't be calling for his head at this point.
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:56 AM   #5
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I fear since Sutton still has his job at this point he's staying.

And one of my biggest frustrations with this organization is realized once again, they stick with something that's broke way too long.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:18 AM   #6
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I fear since Sutton still has his job at this point he's staying.

And one of my biggest frustrations with this organization is realized once again, they stick with something that's broke way too long.
Still holding out hope that the two guys who probably make sense for the Chiefs, spags and Adam Zimmer, technically aren't on the market. If Minnesota loses and spags misses the Giants HC opportunity, maybe we'll see some momentum.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:11 AM   #7
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You can't deny he had a lot to do with getting us into the playoffs.

Not too long ago this fan base would have killed for a DC that could hold teams to 22 points in the postseason.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:18 AM   #8
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You can't deny he had a lot to do with getting us into the playoffs.

Not too long ago this fan base would have killed for a DC that could hold teams to 22 points in the postseason.
Times are different now. We've had a taste of some minor success, and this is no longer acceptable.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:46 AM   #9
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Forget the stats, Sutton just misuses his players far too often. That is the ultimate red flag.

He needs to go.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:12 AM   #10
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I'm not willing to even look at that case, let alone open it and look inside. Sutton's tenure with the Chiefs be what it may, he's done here for me.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:54 AM   #11
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Man..forget Sutton for a second. This defense needs a lot of work in personnel. Dorsey really ****ed up this defense.

2 DL, ILB, maybe OLB, #2 CB and S. Big questions there.

Now we see why Dorsey was shown the door.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:16 AM   #12
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Here are the other relevant rankings:

2017:
- Passing yds: 29th
- Rushing yds: 25th

2016:
- Passing yds: 18th
- Rushing yds: 26th

2015:
- Passing yds: 9th
- Rushing yds: 25th

2014:
- Passing yds: 31st
- Rushing yds: 5th

2013:
- Passing yds: 7th
- Rushing yds: 11th


The "bend but don't break" approach isn't sustainable, and things are trending the wrong way since 2015. It's time for a change, and a move away from the Ryan system.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:28 AM   #13
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Here are the other relevant rankings:

2017:
- Passing yds: 29th
- Rushing yds: 25th

2016:
- Passing yds: 18th
- Rushing yds: 26th

2015:
- Passing yds: 9th
- Rushing yds: 25th

2014:
- Passing yds: 31st
- Rushing yds: 5th

2013:
- Passing yds: 7th
- Rushing yds: 11th


The "bend but don't break" approach isn't sustainable, and things are trending the wrong way since 2015. It's time for a change, and a move away from the Ryan system.
Horrible. As I posted in another thread very rarely do SB winning teams have rankings as low as the bolded parts whether that be the offense or defense. Our defense has got to better...
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What the **** happened between 2014 and 2015? Run defense just fell off a ****ing cliff.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:34 AM   #15
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What the **** happened between 2014 and 2015? Run defense just fell off a ****ing cliff.
Off the top of my head, Houston and Poe were hurt
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