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Old 12-23-2018, 11:00 PM  
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Brett Veach Sucks
Veachs defensive acquisitions since hes been GM: Revis (washed), Breeland Speaks (fat and slow) Derrick nnadi(ok), Darien Odaniel (part time player), Armani Watts (injured just like in college), Tremon Smith (sucks), Anthony Hitchens (most overpaid player in the league) Ragland who we gave a draft pick for knee literally swelled flying to camp, Scandrick didn't even play tonight.


1.5 years not 1 impact player on defense
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:14 PM   #61
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We didn’t lose out bc of Dorsey. We should have kept Chris Ballard.

Look at his 2 drafts in Indy. He’s crushed them and knows what he’s doing. That guy knows how to find talent.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:17 PM   #62
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We didn’t lose out bc of Dorsey. We should have kept Chris Ballard.

Look at his 2 drafts in Indy. He’s crushed them and knows what he’s doing. That guy knows how to find talent.
Hold your horses.

Way easier to make picks when you have many, and always at the top of each round.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:20 PM   #63
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It’s still too early to give a final grade to Veach, even with how frustrating he’s been so far.

He’s had one draft and free agency. At this point in Dorsey’s tenure, Kelce hadn’t played a down, Fisher was enemy numero uno and everyone declared his first offseason a disaster.

I agree this Spring needs to be good. It will be his defining offseason IMO.
You are aware that this team went from 2-14 to 11-5 during Dorsey's and Reid's first year in charge, right?

Maybe Dorsey's first draft had not produced yet but he had already gotten good players via FA and sure being 1st for the waiver wire helped.

It was a different situation really.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:24 PM   #64
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We didn’t lose out bc of Dorsey. We should have kept Chris Ballard.

Look at his 2 drafts in Indy. He’s crushed them and knows what he’s doing. That guy knows how to find talent.
Dorsey crushed his first draft.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:27 PM   #65
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Hold your horses.

Way easier to make picks when you have many, and always at the top of each round.
Look closer.

Anthony Walker was a 5th rd pick and he is an awesome LB. People questioned him picking Darius Leonard and that turns out great. Kemeko Turray was taken after Breeland Speaks and he has 4 sacks as a part time player.

His FA pick ups have been money too. Pierre Desir has been a decent corner, Margus Hunt has 5 sacks, Jabaal Sheard has 5.5 sacks.

He’s been so good.
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Old 12-24-2018, 02:15 PM   #66
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KPassa & Speaks are failed 2nd round picks.
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Old 12-24-2018, 04:56 PM   #67
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Veech needs to stop picking projects with our 2nd round picks.
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Old 12-24-2018, 05:11 PM   #68
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You are aware that this team went from 2-14 to 11-5 during Dorsey's and Reid's first year in charge, right?

Maybe Dorsey's first draft had not produced yet but he had already gotten good players via FA and sure being 1st for the waiver wire helped.

It was a different situation really.
And then Dorsey did it again in Cleveland. Had haslem not forced hue Jackson on him, browns would have made the playoffs. Dorsey had one hell of an offseason. Both Dorsey and Ballard have been nails. Veach had better be too.
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Old 12-24-2018, 05:48 PM   #69
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While I'm still a good ways off from wanting to donate money for a flying banner calling for his firing... its definitely fair to say that the shine is off this guy, the honeymoons over etc etc etc

He gets credit for pushing Mahomes during the draft, and for going after Earl Thomas... but beyond that his decisions have been highly questionable

To have a decidedly defensive draft and free agency that hasnt really produced shit so far is a very bad look indeed

He damn well better nail some shit to the wall in 2019
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Old 12-24-2018, 05:58 PM   #70
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Old 12-24-2018, 06:05 PM   #71
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I dont think Sutton is good, but hes not the reason the D sucks. People blame coordinators too much. Im sure hed be better with a few good corners and less broke dicks.
If we swapped defensive players with the Ravens where to you think we would be ranked? My guess is pretty close to last still. Sutton sucks
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KPassa & Speaks are failed 2nd round picks.
I'm not sure thats been proven true yet

Speaks is a perhaps miscast, overweight rookie... and Kpass was a known project who has flashed some, and was then apparently taken out to the country and dumped off like a dog with no explanation given
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KPassa & Speaks are failed 2nd round picks.
It’s weird as hell to me that people bitch about Veach when Dorsey did this same shit.

Ford was basically redshirted year 1 and used an insurance for Tamba retiring. Did Veach not use a pick on Speaks for the same reason?
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KPassa & Speaks are failed 2nd round picks.
We don't know that yet.
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