Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 570

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2021, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2021, 07:45 PM

Probably a bit high in both conferences tho

Mizzou_8541 · 07-22-2021, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

$20M annual economic benefit to KC. Definitely would suck to lose that.

lol...cashing big 12 checks in Missouri will be missed. What a loser conference that has their tournament is in a state where the best conference in the country chose us over everyone else in the big 12. It's like watching your ex girlfriend **** the best athlete. I'm dead at how pathetic ku looks right now. So amazing.

Mizzou_8541 · 07-22-2021, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Media markets was so 10 years ago. It’s the streaming age. I bet Iowa State fans would stream more games than Rutgers fans. Cord cutting isn’t going to stop anytime soon.

Hopefully Iowa State ends up in the Big 10. Their AAU status should get them there. Ku has literally nothing except a massive corruption investigation and some fake ships. The Big 10 would improve immensely with Iowa State over Ku. It's like Iowa State as a BMW and Ku as the pinto.

Great Expectations · 07-22-2021, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

It was eye-opening realizing how far behind the competitive level was in the Big 12 and how little it prepared us for a tough week in-week out real conference, but I think Drink is making the right steps to becoming very relevant again. He will likely end up with a top 20 recruiting class this year and hopefully put us one step closer to competing at an SEC level. It beats the alternative to clinging to a dying conference, just because we were closer to the top with the weaker competition. As far as the basketball goes, I think you can see from the re-alignment talks and KU being left out of most of those discussions just how important college basketball programs are to these decisions. No one really gives a shit.

MU was plenty prepared to enter the SEC. They won their division early on, but they weren’t able to sustain it.

Titty Meat · 07-22-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

$20M annual economic benefit to KC. Definitely would suck to lose that.

Sprint center lost an NHL pre season game to Silverstein Eye Center. The taxpayers of KC got fleeced on that boring and bland building

Prison Bitch · 07-22-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

lol...cashing big 12 checks in Missouri will be missed.

Not sure if you’re aware, but KC is split down the state line with almost 1/2 the population in Kansas. Your distinction here is silly given the Royals and Chiefs wouldn’t exist without Kansas (like Sporting wouldn’t without Missouri). Those travel and event dollars don’t exclusively reside in Missouri - and Most Americans don’t even know there’s a KCMO anyway.

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What a loser conference that has their tournament is in a state where the best conference in the country chose us over everyone else in the big 12. It's like watching your ex girlfriend **** the best athlete. I'm dead at how pathetic ku looks right now. So amazing.

They chose KC because of KU. Mizzou has a fraction of the alumni base and corporate leadership influence there, not to mention they have no athletic success.

Titty Meat · 07-22-2021, 08:57 PM

I wonder if the the B1G were to get KU if they would play the tournament here. They play in Chicago and Indy so it's not too much further. Youd have KU, I'm assuming KSU too plus Iowa and Nebraska. Not a bad drive from Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota too.

Prison Bitch · 07-22-2021, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Sprint center lost an NHL pre season game to Silverstein Eye Center. The taxpayers of KC got fleeced on that boring and bland building

Very outdated (2013) article here but the claim is SC added $650M of economic benefit to Missouri its first 5 years. It cost $250m to build
https://edckc.com/sprint-center-adds...in-five-years/

I believe they do quite well with concerts and events.

Titty Meat · 07-22-2021, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Very outdated (2013) article here but the claim is SC added $650M of economic benefit to Missouri its first 5 years. It cost $250m to build
https://edckc.com/sprint-center-adds...in-five-years/

I believe they do quite well with concerts and events.

We will see what happens moving forward. It's now a 15 year old arena and losing a NHL pre season game to a minor league arena is a big deal. We originally promised a sports team. That's not going to happen and had people known that the arena idea wouldnt have passed.

Prison Bitch · 07-22-2021, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

I'm willing to bet adding Texas to the SEC adds more eyeballs than all the teams that were mentioned in the post I quoted combined.

You're lying to yourself if you don't believe this isn't being driven by ESPN wanting to form a super conference that's going to blow revenue out of the water.

This decision isn't made without the blessing or instigation of the mothership.

Or COVID, which hammered University revenues and obv, athletic depts

sedated · 07-22-2021, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Governor is a UT alum. He'll just kill any legislation that actually finds some way to make it to his desk

I thought the TX government was owned by Baylor alumni

Mizzou_8541 · 07-22-2021, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Not sure if you’re aware, but KC is split down the state line with almost 1/2 the population in Kansas. Your distinction here is silly given the Royals and Chiefs wouldn’t exist without Kansas (like Sporting wouldn’t without Missouri). Those travel and event dollars don’t exclusively reside in Missouri - and Most Americans don’t even know there’s a KCMO anyway.

They chose KC because of KU. Mizzou has a fraction of the alumni base and corporate leadership influence there, not to mention they have no athletic success.

Lol dude. The SEC chose Mizzou because it was wasn’t a black hole in the Midwest. I hope you end up in the Mountain West, that’s your best case. Iowa State is a much better university than you, and will likely take a Big 10 spot.

But yeah we will miss all that big 12 revenue pouring into downtown kc.

Prison Bitch · 07-22-2021, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I wonder if the the B1G were to get KU if they would play the tournament here. They play in Chicago and Indy so it's not too much further. Youd have KU, I'm assuming KSU too plus Iowa and Nebraska. Not a bad drive from Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota too.

I’d prefer to stay in as small a conf as possible so our hoops slate isn’t eaten up by a bunch of P5 also rans. If OU-Tex leave Id like to keep the remaining old rivalries and free up the 4 hoops games (going from 18 now in conf to 14) for big name matchups nationwide.

I don’t care about any of the other AthDept sports.

Prison Bitch · 07-22-2021, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

Lol dude. The SEC chose Mizzou because it was wasn’t a black hole in the Midwest. I hope you end up in the Mountain West, that’s your best case. Iowa State is a much better university than you, and will likely take a Big 10 spot.

But yeah we will miss all that big 12 revenue pouring into downtown kc.

I recall circa 2011 some Mizzouchebags wondering if leaving would jeopardize the tourney.

They actually thought they mattered.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $2556966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $2197558	I wonder if the the B1G were to get KU if they would play the tournament here. They play in Chicago and Indy so it's not too much further. Youd have KU, I'm assuming KSU too plus Iowa and Nebraska. Not a bad drive from Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota too.
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