Other Sports 2020 NBA Offseason Thread - Page 10

Sassy Squatch · 11-17-2020, 07:15 AM

Sources: After turning down an extension offer to become the first $50M a year player in league history, James Harden’s message to Houston is clear: Get me to Brooklyn. Rockets and Nets have been in contact, but there’s been no meaningful dialogue. https://t.co/qwJOQOxz5U
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020

Houston sports are bursting into flames.

KC_Connection · 01-13-2021, 04:54 PM

Harden is one of the best offensive players to ever play the game. He's more than worth his contract.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-13-2021, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Houston has bent over backwards to try and build a contender around James Harden. They signed CP3 and surrounded them with talent in Clint Capela, Trevor Ariza and PJ Tucker.

And then they fired the GM, the coach and started trading away players, hence Harden wanting to move on.

Duh.

Sassy Squatch · 01-13-2021, 04:56 PM

Yeah, that's ****ing ridiculous. Even the mid tier stars get max money nowadays.

Sassy Squatch · 01-13-2021, 05:06 PM

Just don't understand how the Rockets managed to trade Harden without getting a single even borderline elite player back.

BigCatDaddy · 01-13-2021, 05:10 PM

The Lakers are still the heavy favorite. Chemistry is quite real and may take some time to develop. You have to remember the original super team couldn't even beat basically a 1 man team in 2011.

KC_Connection · 01-13-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

The Lakers are still the heavy favorite. Chemistry is quite real and may take some time to develop. You have to remember the original super team couldn't even beat basically a 1 man team in 2011.

As long as Kyrie Irving decides he wants to play basketball, the Nets will not lose this season.

BigCatDaddy · 01-13-2021, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

As long as Kyrie Irving decides he wants to play basketball, the Nets will not lose this season.

Take it up with Vegas.

Brooklyn now has +270 odds to win the NBA Championship, ranking second in the NBA behind only the Los Angeles Lakers (+260)

Marco Polo · 01-13-2021, 05:41 PM

**** Harden.

UChieffyBugger · 01-13-2021, 05:50 PM

As a Sixers fan I was rooting for us to trade Simmons for Harden as him and Embiid would have been fun to watch...but when reports today suggested that the Rox wanted Ben AND our new potential superstar star Tyrese Maxey along with picks?!!..i was out. Maxey could be another Harden, Dame, Mitchell type of dude in the years to come and there was no way Morey would have done that deal. The East is gonna be a nightmare now with Harden, KD and Kyrie together but can that team defend? I have my doubts. My Sixers will probably try to develop our young core or maybe try and trade for Beal or Levine.

KC_Connection · 01-13-2021, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Take it up with Vegas.

Brooklyn now has +270 odds to win the NBA Championship, ranking second in the NBA behind only the Los Angeles Lakers (+260)

That'll change whenever Kyrie Irving returns to the team. For now, there is still doubt about whether that guy is even going to play. Once he returns, that's as close to a lock as you're going to get in the NBA.

Sassy Squatch · 01-13-2021, 06:08 PM

I'd give this current iteration of the Nets moren of a chance to become a legitimate three ring circus than make it to the NBA finals.

UChieffyBugger · 01-13-2021, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

That'll change whenever Kyrie Irving returns to the team. For now, there is still doubt about whether that guy is even going to play. Once he returns, that's as close to a lock as you're going to get in the NBA.

Can they defend? It's ok scoring a bunch of points but at some point you have to defend and kd and Harden aren't young anymore whilst Kyrie has always been a poor defender.

KC_Connection · 01-13-2021, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

I'd give this current iteration of the Nets moren of a chance to become a legitimate three ring circus than make it to the NBA finals.

The Nets have the 6th (Harden), 10th (Durant), and 29th (Irving) ranked players in BPM in the history of the NBA since 1973-1974: https://www.basketball-reference.com...pm_career.html

Anybody who doesn't realize what this team is doesn't have a clue. Durant/Curry/Klay is the only thing even close to that trio in NBA history. There's a pretty good argument they're already the best team in the NBA even if Kyrie Irving doesn't buy in, but if he does, it's game over.

KC_Connection · 01-13-2021, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Can they defend? It's ok scoring a bunch of points but at some point you have to defend and kd and Harden aren't young anymore whilst Kyrie has always been a poor defender.

Durant and Harden have always been very good defenders when they've needed to be.

Besides, Curry was an absolutely dreadful defender who teams exposed repeatedly in the playoffs and it didn't matter at all because of the KD Warriors' immense offensive talent. The Nets arguably are even better in that regard as Kyrie can do so much more off the dribble than Klay ever could.

Sassy Squatch · 01-13-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The Nets have the 6th (Harden), 10th (Durant), and 29th (Irving) ranked players in BPM in the history of the NBA since 1973-1974: https://www.basketball-reference.com...pm_career.html

Anybody who doesn't realize what this team is doesn't have a clue. Durant/Curry/Klay is the only thing even close to that trio in NBA history. There's a pretty good argument they're already the best team in the NBA even if Kyrie Irving doesn't buy in, but if he does, it's game over.

Sorry, Vegas disagrees with you. All 3 of these guys have horrendously toxic personalities and there's no guarantee they won't just be at each other's throats to the point where it's unsalvageable, especially with the style of basketball they each play.

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01-13-2021, 04:54 PM	#136
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01-13-2021, 04:56 PM	#138
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2379655	Yeah, that's ****ing ridiculous. Even the mid tier stars get max money nowadays.
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01-13-2021, 05:41 PM	#143
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UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $2540400	As a Sixers fan I was rooting for us to trade Simmons for Harden as him and Embiid would have been fun to watch...but when reports today suggested that the Rox wanted Ben AND our new potential superstar star Tyrese Maxey along with picks?!!..i was out. Maxey could be another Harden, Dame, Mitchell type of dude in the years to come and there was no way Morey would have done that deal. The East is gonna be a nightmare now with Harden, KD and Kyrie together but can that team defend? I have my doubts. My Sixers will probably try to develop our young core or maybe try and trade for Beal or Levine.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2379655	I'd give this current iteration of the Nets moren of a chance to become a legitimate three ring circus than make it to the NBA finals.
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