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Old 11-08-2018, 08:25 AM  
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Old 11-09-2018, 11:42 AM   #151
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I'd like to know that as well.....I was in the A Shau in '69 - I saw more death and destruction that most GI's will see in 9 tours.

Never killed anyone that didn't deserve it - even after I came home.

But seriously....this PTSD shit needs to stop.
Well, you came home long before the advent of the internet. Long before mass shootings became a fad, and long before every nutcase on the internet was exposed to every mass shooting on a daily basis, planting the seeds of "why not go out with my own 15 minutes of fame." A lot has changed since then.
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:04 PM   #152
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:53 PM   #153
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Oh hey, another known wolf...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ff-police.html

C'moooooon. There are laws on the books already that should've kept this man from having a firearm. He'd been evaluated by mental health specialists after shooting through a wall in his mother's home. Just another terrible bureaucratic and administrative failure.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:01 PM   #154
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:44 PM   #155
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Oh hey, another known wolf...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ff-police.html

C'moooooon. There are laws on the books already that should've kept this man from having a firearm. He'd been evaluated by mental health specialists after shooting through a wall in his mother's home. Just another terrible bureaucratic and administrative failure.
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Todd Stratton, who was at the bar with two friends who died, said he was in "disbelief" because he's known Long for years. "My friend killed my other friends, and I was just there to see it all happen," Stratton said. "I didn't think that he was the type of person that would do this, and I don't understand it."

On Thursday police searched the home Long shared with his mother. There were rumors Long suffered from PTSD. Long's high school track coach said he physically assaulted her his senior year, but she never filed charges. "There are hundreds of thousands of people with PTSD. They don't go around shooting people. This kid was mentally disturbed in high school," Dominique Colell said.
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:16 PM   #156
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Well, you came home long before the advent of the internet. Long before mass shootings became a fad, and long before every nutcase on the internet was exposed to every mass shooting on a daily basis, planting the seeds of "why not go out with my own 15 minutes of fame." A lot has changed since then.

Horseshit. My Great Great Great Grandfather fought in the Moors of Culloden and survived the Jacobite “rising” to come to the colonies with what was left of his family’

My Great Great Grandfather fought in revolutionary war and lived a long and happy life.

My Great Grandfather rode with Morgan and Quantrill during the Civil War and lived to be buried 100 feet from Daniel Boone in the cemetery in Frankfort Kentucky.

My Grandfather fought in the Trenches in France during WWI and raised my Father and 3 of my Aunts and Uncles and lived to be 94.

My Father fought in WWII, Korea and the very early stages of Vietnam Nam before retiring as a Colonel. Never heard him complain of nightmares ONCE in my lifetime.

My Brother and I fought in Vietnam - My Brother was at Khe Sanh and I served in the A Shau valley. Both places were absolute nightmares and I lost more friends than I can even count. Each year, I travel to Washington DC to pay my respects to my friends at the wall.

I suffered from nightmares for about a year. I NEVER sought treatment, nor did my Brother. PTSD CAN be a real thing - of that, there is no doubt. However, to label every nut job out there as some “returning GI who went nuts” is bullshit and a trick of you fascists on the left.

Here’s a clue for you gun grabbing jerk offs who love your Birkenstock’s. Get off your lazy asses and do a tour or two in Afghanistan. Make damned sure that your MOS is Armor, Artillery or Infantry. Walk a mile in THEIR shoes and maybe, JUST MAYBE you will begin to understand why 99% of Vets out there are sick to death of your “thanks”.

We all know how full of shit you “people” are.
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:33 PM   #157
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Horseshit. My Great Great Great Grandfather fought in the Moors of Culloden and survived the Jacobite “rising” to come to the colonies with what was left of his family’

My Great Great Grandfather fought in revolutionary war and lived a long and happy life.

My Great Grandfather rode with Morgan and Quantrill during the Civil War and lived to be buried 100 feet from Daniel Boone in the cemetery in Frankfort Kentucky.

My Grandfather fought in the Trenches in France during WWI and raised my Father and 3 of my Aunts and Uncles and lived to be 94.

My Father fought in WWII, Korea and the very early stages of Vietnam Nam before retiring as a Colonel. Never heard him complain of nightmares ONCE in my lifetime.

My Brother and I fought in Vietnam - My Brother was at Khe Sanh and I served in the A Shau valley. Both places were absolute nightmares and I lost more friends than I can even count. Each year, I travel to Washington DC to pay my respects to my friends at the wall.

I suffered from nightmares for about a year. I NEVER sought treatment, nor did my Brother. PTSD CAN be a real thing - of that, there is no doubt. However, to label every nut job out there as some “returning GI who went nuts” is bullshit and a trick of you fascists on the left.

Here’s a clue for you gun grabbing jerk offs who love your Birkenstock’s. Get off your lazy asses and do a tour or two in Afghanistan. Make damned sure that your MOS is Armor, Artillery or Infantry. Walk a mile in THEIR shoes and maybe, JUST MAYBE you will begin to understand why 99% of Vets out there are sick to death of your “thanks”.

We all know how full of shit you “people” are.

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Old 11-09-2018, 06:33 PM   #158
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Horseshit. My Great Great Great Grandfather fought in the Moors of Culloden and survived the Jacobite “rising” to come to the colonies with what was left of his family’

My Great Great Grandfather fought in revolutionary war and lived a long and happy life.

My Great Grandfather rode with Morgan and Quantrill during the Civil War and lived to be buried 100 feet from Daniel Boone in the cemetery in Frankfort Kentucky.

My Grandfather fought in the Trenches in France during WWI and raised my Father and 3 of my Aunts and Uncles and lived to be 94.

My Father fought in WWII, Korea and the very early stages of Vietnam Nam before retiring as a Colonel. Never heard him complain of nightmares ONCE in my lifetime.

My Brother and I fought in Vietnam - My Brother was at Khe Sanh and I served in the A Shau valley. Both places were absolute nightmares and I lost more friends than I can even count. Each year, I travel to Washington DC to pay my respects to my friends at the wall.

I suffered from nightmares for about a year. I NEVER sought treatment, nor did my Brother. PTSD CAN be a real thing - of that, there is no doubt. However, to label every nut job out there as some “returning GI who went nuts” is bullshit and a trick of you fascists on the left.

Here’s a clue for you gun grabbing jerk offs who love your Birkenstock’s. Get off your lazy asses and do a tour or two in Afghanistan. Make damned sure that your MOS is Armor, Artillery or Infantry. Walk a mile in THEIR shoes and maybe, JUST MAYBE you will begin to understand why 99% of Vets out there are sick to death of your “thanks”.

We all know how full of shit you “people” are.
Try not to be such a dick, ok? You seem to have missed the point.

Point: There is more to it than simply having served in combat.


And your family history is impressive.


BTW, I did my four years, many moons ago (though not quite as long ago as you, and not in combat.)
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:35 PM   #159
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BTW, I did my four years, many moons ago (though not quite as long ago as you, and not in combat.)
Rikers, eh?

I did 10 at Folsom.
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:47 PM   #160
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Rikers, eh?

I did 10 at Folsom.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:11 PM   #161
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Try not to be such a dick, ok? You seem to have missed the point.

Point: There is more to it than simply having served in combat.


And your family history is impressive.


BTW, I did my four years, many moons ago (though not quite as long ago as you, and not in combat.)


No, there isn't.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:19 PM   #162
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:43 PM   #163
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Oh hey, another known wolf...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ff-police.html

C'moooooon. There are laws on the books already that should've kept this man from having a firearm. He'd been evaluated by mental health specialists after shooting through a wall in his mother's home. Just another terrible bureaucratic and administrative failure.
I'm not sure how to respond to this. My knee-jerk response is that of course you're right and it's obvious. But upon reflection, it's not that simple. Hindsight is always 20-20 and we have very strict laws governing individual rights in this country. It's damn near impossible to commit someone (as his mother found out) and it's also hard to take away their guns.


Legislation aimed at this may prove problematic and cause even more problems. And then there's the issue of: if Long knows the cops are going to take his guns, he can act before they do, serving to "trigger" him. Or he can obtain them illegally off the black market and issue payback over the confiscation.
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C'moooooon. There are laws on the books already that should've kept this man from having a firearm. He'd been evaluated by mental health specialists after shooting through a wall in his mother's home. Just another terrible bureaucratic and administrative failure.
Imagine that, failure to enforce current law is being used by freedom hating authoritarian azzholes to call for more gun control.
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