*** Official 2018-2019 Royals Offseason Repository ***

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Dude you got your ass kicked on this by Cards fans and then hid from this thread for a while. Probably best to let this one go.

You owe me a retraction for this ^

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You owe me a retraction for this ^

Sure. Apologize for calling me a "dumb***", "dumb****" and personally attacking me for months after I predicted James Shields was going to have a Guthrie like regression and you have a deal.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Sure. Apologize for calling me a "dumb***", "dumb****"

No. It was in response to you lying about me, unprovoked.

and personally attacking me for months after I predicted James Shields was going to have a Guthrie like regression and you have a deal.

Sure. Post the link, and if I made an incorrect analysis of course I'll own it. Who wouldn't?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

No. It was in response to you lying about me, unprovoked.




Sure. Post the link, and if I made an incorrect analysis of course I'll own it. Who wouldn't?

It wasn’t unprovoked. You said my fan stupidity hit an all time low.

If I have the time i’ll dig up the 2016 Repo and happily post examples. But will it matter if I do? In the last page of this thread, you’ve ignored the dozens of articles that spoke to how Matheny lost the locker room and ignored the analysis of people who closely followed him for over five years.

I do apologize if what I said was upsetting. I do hold your analysis in high esteem. You’ve been dead on about a lot of your takes from the time you registered here. However, if me retracting is so important to you - all you have to do is apologize for attacking me personally in 2016. It’s that easy.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

No. It was in response to you lying about me, unprovoked.

Sure. Post the link, and if I made an incorrect analysis of course I'll own it. Who wouldn't?

I did a search over my lunch break. I couldn't find the back and forths I was thinking of in the gamethreads that I was thinking of - but here's the first exchange, with my first post coming earlier in the repo.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I've been wondering if the Royals might kick the tires on Shields for a while.

He could fill Jeremy Guthrie's role of eating 200+ innings while giving our bullpen some much needed relief.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

We'll see. A few of my ChiSox friends are going ape**** because it's rumored they'll be sending over one of their top two prospects in exchange. Sox might be going for WS or bust with this one but Shields likely won't cover the very real holes on that roster.

His numbers since 2015 have been much more Jeremy Guthrie than 13-14 Shields.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Uh.....Jeremy Guthrie??? Shields went 13-7 last year with a 3.91 ERA and 216k. Not sure I'd use Batting Practice Guthrie as the right comp.


He's had 1 terrible start this year. It happens. His first 10 starts he had a 3.05 ERA.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Jeremy Guthrie's 2014 FIP: 4.32
James Shields's 2015 FIP: 4.45

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

James Shields = Jeremy Guthrie

(Falls down laughing)

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You're embarrassing yourself.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Right. That comment is out of context from a conversation PB and I had two days ago. I argued that since 2015, Shields resembled more of an inning eater type like Guthrie did for the Royals from 2012-2014.

Shields stats since 2015: 4.44 FIP, 1.357 WHIP, and a 4.00 E.R.A.

He's been an innings eater who has provided relief for the bullpen, but at 34, his role might be a #4 type innings eater at this point.

PB, I like your analysis and think you're one of the best baseball minds on here. But your constant negativity is wearing me down. This team won back to back pennants and is off to strong start despite struggling with major injuries. If that opinion means I embarrassed myself, so be it.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Gawd it'd be nice to get Shields and banish Kennedy to the pen

I know that we've already cluttered up the thread enough. So here's the deal. I'll concede that your concerns about the 2016 season were in the right place, if you own up to repeatedly calling me out and going after me personally (i.e. "I'm embarrassing myself") over Shields.

I still believe that the preponderance of accounts from the STL Media, National Media, and from Cards fans demonstrate that we want nothing to do with Matheny in our locker room, but if you own up about Shields, I'll take back that you got your *** kicked. Deal?

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I did a search over my lunch break. I couldn't find the back and forths I was thinking of in the gamethreads that I was thinking of - but here's the first exchange, with my first post coming earlier in the repo.

Is that What's Eating Gilbert Grape? My bad then. Yes Shields went to shit. I don't presume to know anything about pitching. I'd never sign any vet. They're all pricey and the odds they'll succeed are nil to me. Don't take pitching advice from me in the future.

I still believe that the preponderance of accounts from the STL Media, National Media, and from Cards fans demonstrate that we want nothing to do with Matheny in our locker room, but if you own up about Shields, I'll take back that you got your *** kicked. Deal?

I've stated a dozen times now: it's only about his RELIGIOUS BIAS that I dispute. Not his leadership skills. I'm not getting that across apparently. I'll have to try more - as Richard Nixon famously told his aides, "The 50th time I say something is the 1st time a voter hears it".