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Old 03-23-2013, 06:04 PM   #1
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okay, so here are the top 20 in yards after catch qbs from last season.

Clay, i do not care about 2011. Its irrelevant. But, you should take a look at WHO is number one. That is VERY relevant.....

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.a...e=NFL&rank=230

tom brady threw for 4827 yards last year, with almost 2200 of those, BEING YAC YARDS. meaning his actually captain check down......
Brady knows where to put the ball so his recievers can get yards after the catch?
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:10 PM   #2
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:46 PM   #3
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Anything less than 6 wins in 2013 and 11 in 2014 and a playoff win means the trade was a failure: regardless if it's Alex / Chase Daniel (ha) / Alicki Stanzney (lol) under center.


The FO office opted to make a "win-now" move with a middling level game manager. The team's stars aren't getting any younger, and it's clear there's pressure from Clark to put butts in the seats and stop the fan revolt, so they've put Dorsey and Reid into a corner where they should logically blow up much of the roster, build their own team with draft picks and hitch their wagon to a rookie QB.

But they're not doing that, so they have to make a run with guys like JC, DJ, and Tamba in the remaining few years of peak performance and get to the Superbowl before 2015.

No SB wins by that season, then we're going to be in the exact same situation the team was at on Jan 4 '13
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:46 PM   #4
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My expectation is Trent Green levels of team success with at least a playoff win or two. Anything short of that is failure IMO. Anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise.

The reason I have slightly higher expectations for AS than what Trent Green produced is because AS has the benefit of a team that's on the rise whereas Trent Green was on an aging team that was trying to keep the window open as long as possible. I think the AFC West will be an easier division over the next few years than it was in the early 2000s too.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:02 PM   #5
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My expectation is Trent Green levels of team success with at least a playoff win or two. Anything short of that is failure IMO. Anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise.

The reason I have slightly higher expectations for AS than what Trent Green produced is because AS has the benefit of a team that's on the rise whereas Trent Green was on an aging team that was trying to keep the window open as long as possible. I think the AFC West will be an easier division over the next few years than it was in the early 2000s too.
If Alex Smith can post Trent Green type numbers, we will have several shots at a Super Bowl. We actually have a defense this time around.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #6
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If Alex Smith can post Trent Green type numbers
Alex Smith is not setting franchise records here, nor will he ever be #2 in the league in passing yards.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:28 PM   #7
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If Alex Smith can post Trent Green type numbers, we will have several shots at a Super Bowl. We actually have a defense this time around.
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:58 PM   #8
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If Alex Smith can post Trent Green type numbers, .
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:16 PM   #9
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My expectation is Trent Green levels of team success with at least a playoff win or two. Anything short of that is failure IMO. Anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise.

The reason I have slightly higher expectations for AS than what Trent Green produced is because AS has the benefit of a team that's on the rise whereas Trent Green was on an aging team that was trying to keep the window open as long as possible. I think the AFC West will be an easier division over the next few years than it was in the early 2000s too.
That's about where I'm at. My hope is that we also groom someone underneath him so that if he doesn't get there, we've got another option (unlike the hodgepodge of awful QB's we had after Trent went down).
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:34 PM   #10
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That's about where I'm at. My hope is that we also groom someone underneath him so that if he doesn't get there, we've got another option (unlike the hodgepodge of awful QB's we had after Trent went down).
They are trying to trade down AND trade Albert for picks. They apparently want as many picks as possible in the 1st and 2nd. It seems likely that they have a QB they like that they think will be available with one of those picks. I hope so anyway.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:37 PM   #11
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They are trying to trade down AND trade Albert for picks. They apparently want as many picks as possible in the 1st and 2nd. It seems likely that they have a QB they like that they think will be available with one of those picks. I hope so anyway.
Reid has already announced that Smith is the starter and Daniel is #2. They aren't going to draft a QB early to sit him on the inactive list.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:42 PM   #12
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Reid has already announced that Smith is the starter and Daniel is #2. They aren't going to draft a QB early to sit him on the inactive list.
You don't know that. There is no Luck or RGIII this year. They may think that all of the QBs in this draft need a year or two before they can play in the NFL. And if they have the luxury of doing that, why not? It is what Reid intended to do with Foles last year before Vick was injured.
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Let me guess...only 2012 is relevant...because he would have thrown 26 TDs if you project out those 8 games! OMG!
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:19 PM   #14
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Let me guess...only 2012 is relevant...because he would have thrown 26 TDs if you project out those 8 games! OMG!
No, the stats themselves are mostly irrelevant, because that is who andy reid wanted. I dont buy into the stats at all with alex smith, because he is only going to do what his coaches tell him to do. There is no maverick in him, no ability to create on his own. Hes going to do whatever andy tells him to do. The same that he did with Nolan, singletary, and Jim. Hes the perfect soldier that way.

The stats with alex smith, are the biggest misleader out there. I dont get why that is such a hard concept for people to grasp.
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