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chiefscafan · 02-16-2010, 06:15 AM

I'm watching raws Jerry springer episode this is awful. Raw PG is not raw anymore it's crap TV. Hogan please save wrestling.

Sorry had to say something

Mile High Mania · 02-17-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

And for the record, no matter how many indy fans or hardcore smarks like Samoa Joe, to casual fan he's a fat guy that looks like he manages Sam Goody.

Yeah, the guy really has nothing...

TNA has good upside, people know about it... they may not be watching, but I would guess that interest has picked up quite a bit since this new change. They're doing things that make the people that liked WCW become more interested and I think it's smart as long as they begin to work up the right young talent. Don't ride these old names for too long...

There is a familiar feel with TNA and the old WCW... it's a smart move, essentially the only one that they could make right now.

Ceej · 02-17-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The absolute greatest. There was nothing better than going to ECW house shows and going to the Viking Arena in South Philly.

They actually came to Century 2 (yeah, I know, wtf?) in Wichita twice. Attended both shows and they were very entertaining.

Mile High Mania · 02-17-2010, 09:59 AM

It looks like RAW has been averaging between 5 to 5.5 million viewers on Monday Nights recently. TNA did their first Monday night deal a few weeks ago with the Hogan debut and they drew about 2.2 million viewers, which was about a 700,000-800,000 viewership increase over what they normally pull in on a Thursday night.

So, there was definitely an initial excitement and buzz created... if they can build on it right, WWE will have a nice challenge on their hands. It's all about finding the next stars of the sport to ride... WCW always had Sting, the icon for that franchise. Sting (and other icons) are still there and they can ride the trip down memory lane for a short while, but they definitely need some charismatic young talents to step it up.

They have a lot of upside.

58kcfan89 · 02-17-2010, 12:05 PM

You guys are watching the wrong show. Smackdown's much better than Raw, with guys like Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Edge and to a lesser extent Undertaker doing a great job of carrying the show.

I just finished watching the Springer Raw from this week and I had to skip like half the show because it was replays of things that happened earlier in the show or a "preview" of the PPV this Sunday (that I'll probably stream online and not pay for). The Bret "injury" segment was beyond terrible, as was the Springer segment (although Kelly's hot...), and the Cena-Batista thing is pretty bad, too.

And Sheamus (lol @ him being WWE Champion) beating up HHH & Cena after the main event got almost no heat from the crowd. The announcers were trying to act all shocked that he just beat them up, but most of the crowd couldn't care less. He has to lose the title this Sunday, because he's an awful champion.

There's a lot of cool/good storylines they can develop leading into WrestleMania, but they didn't do a goo job of it at all this past Monday.

I'm a pretty big wresting fan (I watch MMA fairly often, too) and am all for a good wrestling show, but it's not Raw right now. I'll have to get on TNA, it can't be any worse than last week's Raw.... God, I hope not at least...

Mile High Mania · 02-17-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89

You guys are watching the wrong show. Smackdown's much better than Raw, with guys like Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Edge and to a lesser extent Undertaker doing a great job of carrying the show.

I just finished watching the Springer Raw from this week and I had to skip like half the show because it was replays of things that happened earlier in the show or a "preview" of the PPV this Sunday (that I'll probably stream online and not pay for). The Bret "injury" segment was beyond terrible, as was the Springer segment (although Kelly's hot...), and the Cena-Batista thing is pretty bad, too.

And Sheamus (lol @ him being WWE Champion) beating up HHH & Cena after the main event got almost no heat from the crowd. The announcers were trying to act all shocked that he just beat them up, but most of the crowd couldn't care less. He has to lose the title this Sunday, because he's an awful champion.

There's a lot of cool/good storylines they can develop leading into WrestleMania, but they didn't do a goo job of it at all this past Monday.

I'm a pretty big wresting fan (I watch MMA fairly often, too) and am all for a good wrestling show, but it's not Raw right now. I'll have to get on TNA, it can't be any worse than last week's Raw.... God, I hope not at least...

This is why I think the WWE has watered down it's offering by being spread too thin across the different programming. I don't carve out time to watch any of it anymore, mainly because I have kids and many other things requiring my time now.

But, if it were 10-15 years ago... there's no way I would devote several hours for 3 nights a week to watch wrasslin. That's why the WCW/WWE rivalry was so good. You had 2 offerings at the same time and you could flip between the shows.

chiefscafan · 02-17-2010, 03:09 PM

Raw could be saved as I said turn orton into the anti hero ala Austin. Even use the anti cena fans by basically having orton say u need the fans to feel good bout yourself I on the other hand just need to take people out and they shout my name( like rock use to) then the anti cena people will shout his name. Then you let cena play more to the crowd and as he does Randy rkos him picks up the mic and says cena I take people out. And do the orton pose.

I'm telling u guys the crowd wants to cheer like they did Austin, but they aren't sure If they should. Let them and use orton as an anti hero at least that's what I would do. That way he isn't a baby face but is like Austin, rock or the NWO In early days bad a$$ SOBs who take the boring babyfaces out.

02-16-2010, 06:15 AM
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Man I hope TNA gets good cause RAW has officially died I'm watching raws Jerry springer episode this is awful. Raw PG is not raw anymore it's crap TV. Hogan please save wrestling. Sorry had to say something
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02-17-2010, 09:59 AM	#63
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $937229	It looks like RAW has been averaging between 5 to 5.5 million viewers on Monday Nights recently. TNA did their first Monday night deal a few weeks ago with the Hogan debut and they drew about 2.2 million viewers, which was about a 700,000-800,000 viewership increase over what they normally pull in on a Thursday night. So, there was definitely an initial excitement and buzz created... if they can build on it right, WWE will have a nice challenge on their hands. It's all about finding the next stars of the sport to ride... WCW always had Sting, the icon for that franchise. Sting (and other icons) are still there and they can ride the trip down memory lane for a short while, but they definitely need some charismatic young talents to step it up. They have a lot of upside. __________________
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02-17-2010, 12:05 PM	#64
58kcfan89 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9663187	You guys are watching the wrong show. Smackdown's much better than Raw, with guys like Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Edge and to a lesser extent Undertaker doing a great job of carrying the show. I just finished watching the Springer Raw from this week and I had to skip like half the show because it was replays of things that happened earlier in the show or a "preview" of the PPV this Sunday (that I'll probably stream online and not pay for). The Bret "injury" segment was beyond terrible, as was the Springer segment (although Kelly's hot...), and the Cena-Batista thing is pretty bad, too. And Sheamus (lol @ him being WWE Champion) beating up HHH & Cena after the main event got almost no heat from the crowd. The announcers were trying to act all shocked that he just beat them up, but most of the crowd couldn't care less. He has to lose the title this Sunday, because he's an awful champion. There's a lot of cool/good storylines they can develop leading into WrestleMania, but they didn't do a goo job of it at all this past Monday. I'm a pretty big wresting fan (I watch MMA fairly often, too) and am all for a good wrestling show, but it's not Raw right now. I'll have to get on TNA, it can't be any worse than last week's Raw.... God, I hope not at least...
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02-17-2010, 03:09 PM	#66
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Raw could be saved as I said turn orton into the anti hero ala Austin. Even use the anti cena fans by basically having orton say u need the fans to feel good bout yourself I on the other hand just need to take people out and they shout my name( like rock use to) then the anti cena people will shout his name. Then you let cena play more to the crowd and as he does Randy rkos him picks up the mic and says cena I take people out. And do the orton pose. I'm telling u guys the crowd wants to cheer like they did Austin, but they aren't sure If they should. Let them and use orton as an anti hero at least that's what I would do. That way he isn't a baby face but is like Austin, rock or the NWO In early days bad a$$ SOBs who take the boring babyfaces out.
Posts: 4,425