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Old 09-05-2022, 04:15 PM  
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Some mild nerdery: this year's waivers claims.

Terez Paylor used to say every year that scouting/personnel departments pride themselves on how many of their team's cuts end up getting claimed by other teams: the obvious implication being that you were able to acquire so much talent, other teams are dying to vulture your overflow.

This year, the Chiefs had one player claimed on waivers: Matt Dickerson.

But look at this list, and one team shockingly stands out:

Buffalo has 3, Minnesota a couple, and a bunch of other teams having one player plucked each.

Except known scouting powerhouse the New York Jets, with six players claimed. My goodness.

I can't ever recall a team having had that many players plucked. This is also coming off the heels of what many people considered to be a grand slam draft class for them.

So either this is all a crapshoot or suddenly the Jets scouting department became the best scouting department in NFL history this offseason.
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Old 09-05-2022, 08:07 PM   #16
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Wait, so a team that's done jack shit for decades has a really good draft, cuts half a dozen players that other teams snatch up right away.... and the conclusion is "NYJ scouts became the best ever"?

And not, you know.... team that's never seemed to know WTF they're doing, seems to ....uh, not know WTF they're doing.
I think it's clear I was not endorsing the Jets front office.

You don't think this is at least mildly strange? It's at least mildly strange.
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Old 09-05-2022, 08:09 PM   #17
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They actually had 7 claimed, which is pretty amazing. They weren't the first with two of them though and two are failed 2019 draft picks.

DB Javelin Guidry - 2020 UDFA by NYJ
OT Chuma Edoga - 2019 3rd Rd by NYJ
LB Del'Shawn Phillips - 2019 UDFA by ATL, 2019-20 PS BUF, 2021 PS NYJ
TE Trevon Wesco - 2019 4th Rd by NYJ
DB Jason Pinnock - 2021 5th Rd by NYJ
DB Isaiah Dunn - 2021 UDFA by NYJ
DB Rashad Wildgoose - 2021 6th Rd by BUF to PS, NYJ to AR.

I'd say them letting go of Edoga is a bit surprising and probably the only claim worthy of any talk. He's been a swing tackle, but man I can't believe they haven't tried to make him a guard. Seems like he'd be starter-caliber there.

In any event, it's not really something to pin on the great scouting department... because most are exactly what they were as camp fodder.
Seven, holy hell. That is so bizarre.

If there were so many teams circling their talent, why couldn't they have flipped a bunch of these dudes for "Saleh system" guys or draft picks?

What are they doing over there?
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Old 09-05-2022, 08:25 PM   #18
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They actually had 7 claimed, which is pretty amazing. They weren't the first with two of them though and two are failed 2019 draft picks.

DB Javelin Guidry - 2020 UDFA by NYJ
OT Chuma Edoga - 2019 3rd Rd by NYJ
LB Del'Shawn Phillips - 2019 UDFA by ATL, 2019-20 PS BUF, 2021 PS NYJ
TE Trevon Wesco - 2019 4th Rd by NYJ
DB Jason Pinnock - 2021 5th Rd by NYJ
DB Isaiah Dunn - 2021 UDFA by NYJ
DB Rashad Wildgoose - 2021 6th Rd by BUF to PS, NYJ to AR.

I'd say them letting go of Edoga is a bit surprising and probably the only claim worthy of any talk. He's been a swing tackle, but man I can't believe they haven't tried to make him a guard. Seems like he'd be starter-caliber there.

In any event, it's not really something to pin on the great scouting department... because most are exactly what they were as camp fodder.
Looks like alot of formerly drafted players teams signing as bottom of the roster lottery ticket types. I don't think this is any indication the Jets FO is any good perhaps quite the opposite and they can't properly evaluate talent thus letting some guys go.

This is zero against Veach as his strategy clearly shifted this year towards a more balanced roster over a top heavy roster
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Old 09-05-2022, 08:38 PM   #19
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That's absolutely right, far as their draft position was concerned. The biggest reason they killed the draft was because of all the high picks.

It's legit weird, much as we love to hate on the Jets (and/or me), that teams across the league saw six of their castoffs as must-have snags to pad the bottom of their rosters.

I think it's weird because you usually associate so many players getting claimed from one team as evidence that this team has a loaded roster. Spoiler alert: the Jets do not have a loaded roster.

So it really means that the Jets cut a lot of enticing guys with desirable traits from their garbage roster.

I don't follow the Jets close enough to know the story there: are they coached purely incompetently?

Saleh's been there a year; maybe he was ready to move on from a bunch of otherwise really promising players who he simply didn't like for one reason or another. Couldn't he have flipped them for picks?

Six players being claimed, despite on paper being some kind of insane bragging rights for the Jets, seems to be kind of a stain.
Their roster could still be garbage. This simply means that a team likes one of these players better than they like their 53rd guy. That's it. So, even a team with a better roster might simply want that particular guy (due to position, age, contract, etc.) more than their guy.
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