Chiefs Drafting Corner

Direckshun · 03-20-2012, 12:02 PM

Let's play with this idea for a moment.

Chiefs are on the clock at #11, can't trade down, and Kirkpatrick and/or Janoris Jenkins are still on the board.

If that is the case, how interested might you be in pulling the trigger?

Keep in mind the usual suspects will be at the #11 pick, DeCastro, all the tackles, Kuechly, Poe.

If you bring on a corner, especially a stud like Jenkins, you have the best three corner combo in the NFL, and Arenas in the slot (where he's excelled) if you need him.

If you're REALLY concerned about Manning winning the division over you, this isn't the worst thought in the world.

The Jets showed us that if you have enough talent at CB, then you really can neuter even the best of franchise QBs. Brady is arguably the best QB in the league, and he has to throw away from his WRs when he plays the Jets.

The only problem there is that you have to REALLY stack the CB position like the Jets did. It's too much money to tie up in one position.

Except, Flowers would be the only corner in KC with a fat contract. Routt + Jenkins' rookie contract together would be cheaper than Brandon Carr, bar none. Financially, it's completely doable, and the Chiefs would still have double digits in millions of dollars in cap room.

Manning would have to hit his tight end(s) and check down receivers, because Flowers and Routt are largely neutralizing his #1 and #2, and all Jenkins has to do is shut down the #3. Arenas covers the slot. And we've all seen how mortal Manning looks when he's frustrated.

Plus, this gives us insurance for an elite CB duo if Routt doesn't pan out.

It's a thought.

Discuss.

suds79 · 03-20-2012, 12:04 PM

I wouldn't be upset at a CB. I think the Chiefs have done a nice enough job in FA to place themselves at the point to where they can take the BPA.

So if it's a corner? Fine. But I'd prefer another pass rusher.

Simply Red · 03-20-2012, 12:04 PM

it's discus, get it?!

ToxSocks · 03-20-2012, 12:04 PM

#11 for a Headcase like Jenkins? No thanks.

i would take him the 2nd though, and it's possible he falls that far.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 12:05 PM

Taking another corner, when we have yet to develop Brown, makes zero sense.

kczoo · 03-20-2012, 12:05 PM

bro that wouldnt bother me at all, Manning, Rivers etc preys off of timing and zero pass rush. We need to get in their faces up front. If Dontari can do it, why not? Is he a bust? Maybe Mannings a bust. All fate and all chance. I like that pick of yours though

Direckshun · 03-20-2012, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Taking another corner, when we have yet to develop Brown, makes zero sense.

Brown hasn't shown very well.

Not even on special teams.

He may bust.

**The Franchise** · 03-20-2012, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Taking another corner, when we have yet to develop Brown, makes zero sense.

This.

I think Jalil Brown can turn into a damn good CB.

Direckshun · 03-20-2012, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

This.

I think Jalil Brown can turn into a damn good CB.

Meh.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-20-2012, 12:08 PM

No thanks.

ToxSocks · 03-20-2012, 12:08 PM

Decastro, Kuechly or Kirkpatrick is fine by me.

I think the Chiefs are going to trade down though.

kczoo · 03-20-2012, 12:10 PM

Brown sucked azz when put in

Dante84 · 03-20-2012, 12:10 PM

We've got the freedom to do this.

I want us to snag a FA Guard (not sure who's left?) So that our OLine is done for the time being. Hell, we can draft some late, also.

We are set with our starting Tackles, but we need deapth. I think a backup Tackle is not a need in round 1, if you plan on Re-signing BA.

I think you have to go BPA, and right now, BPA is going to be a CB (G withstanding).

With Palmer, Rivers, and Manning in our division, I have no problem pulling the trigger. Even though those QB's are aging and showing cracks, they still were/are elite. Can't afford to get burned.

I'm happy with CB. But who's the choice?

kczoo · 03-20-2012, 12:12 PM

On a side note, I think its hilarious on draft day years ago, people freaked cuz we didnt draft Quinn. Now weve got him cheapo depot and everyone is like wtf? Quinn>Palko

Hoover · 03-20-2012, 12:12 PM

I understand the line of thinking but I don't think it is wise. Just like it would have been unwise to invest 100 million in two CBs, you also don't want to over invest via the draft. How many times did we invest high draft picks in the DT position this decade and have nothing to show for it? Not only did many of them not pan out, the focus to find the monster QB crushing DT cost us much needed talent at other positions.

I think we need to try and trade down, but if we can't I have no problem taking a guy like DeCastro because it would solidify our Oline for years to come.

03-20-2012, 12:02 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Drafting Corner Let's play with this idea for a moment. Chiefs are on the clock at #11, can't trade down, and Kirkpatrick and/or Janoris Jenkins are still on the board. If that is the case, how interested might you be in pulling the trigger? Keep in mind the usual suspects will be at the #11 pick, DeCastro, all the tackles, Kuechly, Poe. If you bring on a corner, especially a stud like Jenkins, you have the best three corner combo in the NFL, and Arenas in the slot (where he's excelled) if you need him. If you're REALLY concerned about Manning winning the division over you, this isn't the worst thought in the world. The Jets showed us that if you have enough talent at CB, then you really can neuter even the best of franchise QBs. Brady is arguably the best QB in the league, and he has to throw away from his WRs when he plays the Jets. The only problem there is that you have to REALLY stack the CB position like the Jets did. It's too much money to tie up in one position. Except, Flowers would be the only corner in KC with a fat contract. Routt + Jenkins' rookie contract together would be cheaper than Brandon Carr, bar none. Financially, it's completely doable, and the Chiefs would still have double digits in millions of dollars in cap room. Manning would have to hit his tight end(s) and check down receivers, because Flowers and Routt are largely neutralizing his #1 and #2, and all Jenkins has to do is shut down the #3. Arenas covers the slot. And we've all seen how mortal Manning looks when he's frustrated. Plus, this gives us insurance for an elite CB duo if Routt doesn't pan out. It's a thought. Discuss.
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ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2063063	#11 for a Headcase like Jenkins? No thanks. i would take him the 2nd though, and it's possible he falls that far. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	Taking another corner, when we have yet to develop Brown, makes zero sense. __________________
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kczoo Donkey Trainer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Marshfield Casino cash: $9864900	bro that wouldnt bother me at all, Manning, Rivers etc preys off of timing and zero pass rush. We need to get in their faces up front. If Dontari can do it, why not? Is he a bust? Maybe Mannings a bust. All fate and all chance. I like that pick of yours though
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suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	I wouldn't be upset at a CB. I think the Chiefs have done a nice enough job in FA to place themselves at the point to where they can take the BPA. So if it's a corner? Fine. But I'd prefer another pass rusher.
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kczoo Donkey Trainer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Marshfield Casino cash: $9864900	Brown sucked azz when put in
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1998004 VARSITY	We've got the freedom to do this. I want us to snag a FA Guard (not sure who's left?) So that our OLine is done for the time being. Hell, we can draft some late, also. We are set with our starting Tackles, but we need deapth. I think a backup Tackle is not a need in round 1, if you plan on Re-signing BA. I think you have to go BPA, and right now, BPA is going to be a CB (G withstanding). With Palmer, Rivers, and Manning in our division, I have no problem pulling the trigger. Even though those QB's are aging and showing cracks, they still were/are elite. Can't afford to get burned. I'm happy with CB. But who's the choice? __________________ ..
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03-20-2012, 12:12 PM	#14
kczoo Donkey Trainer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Marshfield Casino cash: $9864900	On a side note, I think its hilarious on draft day years ago, people freaked cuz we didnt draft Quinn. Now weve got him cheapo depot and everyone is like wtf? Quinn>Palko
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03-20-2012, 12:12 PM	#15
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2091821	I understand the line of thinking but I don't think it is wise. Just like it would have been unwise to invest 100 million in two CBs, you also don't want to over invest via the draft. How many times did we invest high draft picks in the DT position this decade and have nothing to show for it? Not only did many of them not pan out, the focus to find the monster QB crushing DT cost us much needed talent at other positions. I think we need to try and trade down, but if we can't I have no problem taking a guy like DeCastro because it would solidify our Oline for years to come.
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