Movies and TV Man I hope TNA gets good cause RAW has officially died

chiefscafan · 02-16-2010, 06:15 AM

I'm watching raws Jerry springer episode this is awful. Raw PG is not raw anymore it's crap TV. Hogan please save wrestling.

Sorry had to say something

jwazzie · 02-16-2010, 08:20 AM

I think that when they start going head to head March 8th, I feel that people will slowly gravitate to TNA because of the storylines. If they push the wrestlers like the Pope, Samoa Joe, Styles, etc. then it will work. I think Bischoff and Hogan learned from their mistakes in WCW that old timers work for a little while but dies off. WWE is ok with what they bring because their isn't any competition out there. It should get really good in about 6 months when everything is settled on Monday Nights and you can go back and forth.

MOhillbilly · 02-16-2010, 08:28 AM

i miss the old days of GCW. I always liked the Andersons & the Von Erichs.

Youd get up sat. morn. and catch mornin toons startin at 5, watch em till 10:30a - 11 than catch grapplin for an hour or two. Switch over after that and get some star trek......

BigCatDaddy · 02-16-2010, 08:29 AM

GLOW FTW!

chiefscafan · 02-16-2010, 08:55 AM

Well I hope other shows are better because last nights episode took a nose dive and Kelly Kelly is hot but main she is not believable

Ceej · 02-16-2010, 08:58 AM

Bring back the old ECW, please, kthx.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-16-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

Bring back the old ECW, please, kthx.

The absolute greatest. There was nothing better than going to ECW house shows and going to the Viking Arena in South Philly.

Ceej · 02-17-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The absolute greatest. There was nothing better than going to ECW house shows and going to the Viking Arena in South Philly.

They actually came to Century 2 (yeah, I know, wtf?) in Wichita twice. Attended both shows and they were very entertaining.

MOhillbilly · 02-16-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Well I hope other shows are better because last nights episode took a nose dive and Kelly Kelly is hot but main she is not believable

WOOO, Lets do the time wrap again..

Tango&Cash · 02-16-2010, 09:08 AM

The Rock
Stone Cold
Goldberg (to some degree)
nWo
DX

These guys/groups made wrestling in the 90's and early 2000's

Once these guys left, WWE had no talent or marketable personalities to match them. I mean they had the older guys like Undertaker, Kane, Triple H, HBK, and so on. But nothing compared to the 3 above, esp Rock and Austin, those 2 took America by storm. Shit I still like the Rock, even though he's a shitty actor and his movies are crap not counting Walking Tall and The Rundown.

Even Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, John Cena aka the whitest mexican thug on the planet, are all junk characters.

That and MMA became absolutely HUGE in America. Add that to the fact that Pro wrestling is fake and MMA is real, then you lose a lot of fanbase, and Lesnar didn't help WWE too much by leaving for UFC.

Molitoth · 02-16-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango&Cash

The Rock
Stone Cold
Goldberg (to some degree)
nWo
DX

These guys/groups made wrestling in the 90's and early 2000's

Once these guys left, WWE had no talent or marketable personalities to match them. I mean they had the older guys like Undertaker, Kane, Triple H, HBK, and so on. But nothing compared to the 3 above, esp Rock and Austin, those 2 took America by storm. Shit I still like the Rock, even though he's a shitty actor and his movies are crap not counting Walking Tall and The Rundown.

Even Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, John Cena aka the whitest mexican thug on the planet, are all junk characters.

That and MMA became absolutely HUGE in America. Add that to the fact that Pro wrestling is fake and MMA is real, then you lose a lot of fanbase, and Lesnar didn't help WWE too much by leaving for UFC.

I agree! The Rock (nation of domination), Stonecold, DegenerationX with Chyna, HBK, and The 1,2,3 Kid was awesome.

blazzin311 · 02-16-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango&Cash

The Rock
Stone Cold
Goldberg (to some degree)
nWo
DX

These guys/groups made wrestling in the 90's and early 2000's

Once these guys left, WWE had no talent or marketable personalities to match them. I mean they had the older guys like Undertaker, Kane, Triple H, HBK, and so on. But nothing compared to the 3 above, esp Rock and Austin, those 2 took America by storm. Shit I still like the Rock, even though he's a shitty actor and his movies are crap not counting Walking Tall and The Rundown.

Even Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, John Cena aka the whitest mexican thug on the planet, are all junk characters.

That and MMA became absolutely HUGE in America. Add that to the fact that Pro wrestling is fake and MMA is real, then you lose a lot of fanbase, and Lesnar didn't help WWE too much by leaving for UFC.

I agree with your post 100%... and to be honest I haven't watched wrestling in years. Couldn't even begin to tell you any of the current wrestlers or storylines for that matter...when I was younger of course...I watched all the time. I think we all did for a period or so. For me/ my generation you are correct...the glory days were certainly topped by The Rock, and Stone Cold. Stone Cold being my fav. of the bunch. I will disagree with your remark of throwing Kurt Angle in the junk character mold...maybe his character is a bit "junk" but damn he's one hell of a wrestler. That guy is tremendous. I like you mentioned, started watching mma years ago about the same time I quit watching wrestling and haven't really looked back since. From time to time I'll actually be watching mma and thinking to myself if it were years ago and Kurt Angle was a bit younger, he'd make a hell of an mma fighter I do believe...maybe that's just my opinion though. But most wrestlers, or fighters with a wrestling base rather do quite well in mma. I'm thinking Angle would have been no different.

MoreLemonPledge · 02-16-2010, 09:13 AM

chiefscafan · 02-16-2010, 09:15 AM

Lol I mean she was laughing the whole time. It's like Vince is saying I can put crap out there and still make u pay

. I'm sorry once again I hope bischoff and hogan can take him down a couple of notches. They did it once and it forced Vince to take chances I mean they are even screwing up the Brett hart storyline. Let me guess next week Vince will now say the match is back on if Brett can fight and will laugh. Later we will find out it was all a setup to get him in the ring and Brett is fine blah blah blah. HBK is switched to smackdown and signed by viki Guerrero and will be in match at wrestlemania against undertaker thus why no hbk last night. If this all happens can u. Say too predictable?

On a side note wcw went live and knowing raw was still tapped bischoff did one of the greatest moves ever he told the winners of every match and signed Rick rude made him shave that beard and come out the same time him in full beard was on RAw lol. You could just imagine Vince yelling at the tv man to be a fly on the wall that day

Tango&Cash · 02-16-2010, 09:19 AM

The thing about WWE is that it became too big to manage. One of the worst things they ever did was split the shows into 2 different "leagues" so to speak.

They got too big to manage all of their star power and the story lines associated with them. You had some big stars on RAW, some big stars on Smackdown, and they would never have any storylines between them unless they had a RAW vs Smackdown PPV.

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chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Man I hope TNA gets good cause RAW has officially died I'm watching raws Jerry springer episode this is awful. Raw PG is not raw anymore it's crap TV. Hogan please save wrestling. Sorry had to say something
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jwazzie Big Headed Baby Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Somewhere in the US Casino cash: $10004607	I think that when they start going head to head March 8th, I feel that people will slowly gravitate to TNA because of the storylines. If they push the wrestlers like the Pope, Samoa Joe, Styles, etc. then it will work. I think Bischoff and Hogan learned from their mistakes in WCW that old timers work for a little while but dies off. WWE is ok with what they bring because their isn't any competition out there. It should get really good in about 6 months when everything is settled on Monday Nights and you can go back and forth. __________________ Who dat?....Who dare?
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MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	i miss the old days of GCW. I always liked the Andersons & the Von Erichs. Youd get up sat. morn. and catch mornin toons startin at 5, watch em till 10:30a - 11 than catch grapplin for an hour or two. Switch over after that and get some star trek...... __________________ True Son of Liberty
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chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Well I hope other shows are better because last nights episode took a nose dive and Kelly Kelly is hot but main she is not believable
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Tango&Cash Starter Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	The Rock Stone Cold Goldberg (to some degree) nWo DX These guys/groups made wrestling in the 90's and early 2000's Once these guys left, WWE had no talent or marketable personalities to match them. I mean they had the older guys like Undertaker, Kane, Triple H, HBK, and so on. But nothing compared to the 3 above, esp Rock and Austin, those 2 took America by storm. Shit I still like the Rock, even though he's a shitty actor and his movies are crap not counting Walking Tall and The Rundown. Even Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, John Cena aka the whitest mexican thug on the planet, are all junk characters. That and MMA became absolutely HUGE in America. Add that to the fact that Pro wrestling is fake and MMA is real, then you lose a lot of fanbase, and Lesnar didn't help WWE too much by leaving for UFC. Last edited by Tango&Cash; 02-16-2010 at 09:16 AM..
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chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Lol I mean she was laughing the whole time. It's like Vince is saying I can put crap out there and still make u pay . I'm sorry once again I hope bischoff and hogan can take him down a couple of notches. They did it once and it forced Vince to take chances I mean they are even screwing up the Brett hart storyline. Let me guess next week Vince will now say the match is back on if Brett can fight and will laugh. Later we will find out it was all a setup to get him in the ring and Brett is fine blah blah blah. HBK is switched to smackdown and signed by viki Guerrero and will be in match at wrestlemania against undertaker thus why no hbk last night. If this all happens can u. Say too predictable? On a side note wcw went live and knowing raw was still tapped bischoff did one of the greatest moves ever he told the winners of every match and signed Rick rude made him shave that beard and come out the same time him in full beard was on RAw lol. You could just imagine Vince yelling at the tv man to be a fly on the wall that day
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Tango&Cash Starter Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	The thing about WWE is that it became too big to manage. One of the worst things they ever did was split the shows into 2 different "leagues" so to speak. They got too big to manage all of their star power and the story lines associated with them. You had some big stars on RAW, some big stars on Smackdown, and they would never have any storylines between them unless they had a RAW vs Smackdown PPV.
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