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Old 09-13-2011, 09:23 PM   Topic Starter
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Am I the only one here that still wants the Chiefs to win some games this season?
I know I'm just The Royals fan so what do I know... that's fine. I also know the loss of Moeaki and Berry is really damaging so hopes are down. We stunk in week 1 so if we can't beat or even be competitive with the Bills at home what hope do we have...?

I know a lot of people want Andrew Luck... I'd like to see a QB like that in KC too. But I'm not ready to tank the season after one week in hopes that we get the top pick.... THEN actually take him.

This team won the division last year. We added some talent... maybe not enough depth. But the team is young and SHOULD get better. If we can't compete because of the loss of one guy on each side of the ball then I'd guess we weren't nearly as good as we thought last year. Yes... easy schedule... so what. You can only win the games you play. Yes this year the schedule is hard... so what. Rising teams should get better.

Cassel isn't great... Haley went full reerun in pre-season... I get it.

I'm just wondering if most of you guys/gals have really given up already or if the talk here since Sunday is more of a coping mechanism.

Feel free to say stfu baseball fan... just honestly on my mind.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:24 PM   #2
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:25 PM   #3
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Do you believe in tanking to try for the top pick?
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:32 PM   #4
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Do you believe in tanking to try for the top pick?

I'm not a quitter, it's just not in my makeup.



Besides, it would take total failure to get the number 1, and I think this team is to good to fail that badly.


I don't want to get in the 6-10 to 9-7 cycle where we have a QB that wins some games, but puts us out of the running for drafting a real franchise QB.

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I would rather fail and get a guy that has a 10% chance to be elite then a QB that wins 8-9 games but has 0% chance of winning it all.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:34 PM   #5
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:43 PM   #6
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We've lost lots of games in plenty of seasons but it hasn't really helped.

So yeah, I guess I'd just as soon win some instead.

I've been rooting for this team for over 40 years. Playing for next season loses its appeal after a while.
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I'm not a quitter, it's just not in my makeup.



Besides, it would take total failure to get the number 1, and I think this team is to good to fail that badly.


I don't want to get in the 6-10 to 9-7 cycle where we have a QB that wins some games, but puts us out of the running for drafting a real franchise QB.

BUT

I would rather fail and get a guy that has a 10% chance to be elite then a QB that wins 8-9 games but has 0% chance of winning it all.
I get that. The football season is so short and each game means so much you can't really have normal ups and downs. It's kind of an all or nothing sport.
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Do you believe in tanking to try for the top pick?
Yes?

What's the best position at the end of the season?

Super bowl winner of course.....

What's the second best?

1st pick in the draft(especially now that contracts aren't insane).

Look I'd love t see the team win out, but you know what, I don't want wins, I want championships. Until the chiefs get a franchise QB we're not winning a championship, that's not a maybe, it's a statistic for how the game is played today.
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Yes?

What's the best position at the end of the season?

Super bowl winner of course.....

What's the second best?

1st pick in the draft(especially now that contracts aren't insane).

Look I'd love t see the team win out, but you know what, I don't want wins, I want championships. Until the chiefs get a franchise QB we're not winning a championship, that's not a maybe, it's a statistic for how the game is played today.
I would think making the Super Bowl and losing it would be second best but I do understand your point.
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I would think making the Super Bowl and losing it would be second best but I do understand your point.
Yea I know what you mean and I was like that at one point, but that's not really me now. Some people are ok with second place, to me it's victory or death, there is no second place.
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Yes?

What's the best position at the end of the season?

Super bowl winner of course.....

What's the second best?

1st pick in the draft(especially now that contracts aren't insane).

Look I'd love t see the team win out, but you know what, I don't want wins, I want championships. Until the chiefs get a franchise QB we're not winning a championship, that's not a maybe, it's a statistic for how the game is played today.


Yes. I would MUCH rather KC be like Carolina and not like that shitty team in Pittsburgh. I mean, the Steelers NEVER pick first.. they suck!

Chiefs fans are so defeatist.
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I mean, the Steelers NEVER pick first.. they suck!
The one time in recent history that they picked in the top 10, they picked a franchise QB. Seemed to work out okay for them.
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Do you believe in tanking to try for the top pick?
Yes. It worked for the San Antonio Spurs. They tanked the 96-97 season to get Tim Duncan. Since then they've enjoyed a 13 year run of awesomeness and 4 championships.
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Do you believe in tanking to try for the top pick?
It won't take trying to hit the tank this season. Head Coach clueless, best Defensive players gone for the season and prideful GM in not recognizing his mistake at QB (Cassel). This thing was over before in began. But if we hit rock bottom, the QB (Locker) is there to join a good foundation of Offensive weapons.
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Want to win? Hell yes.


Reality? Hell no.
Pretty much sums it up.

Want to win? Damn straight.

Expect to win? Not so much.
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