Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-28-2016, 06:26 AM  
MatriculatingHank MatriculatingHank is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $-1365142
The Chiefs won’t die, even after they appear very, very ill

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...117452088.html

DENVER BY SAM MELLINGER
[email protected]

The normal rules of modern professional football have only rarely applied to these Chiefs, so why would we have expected anything other than … this?

The Chiefs, playing shorthanded against the rested, finally healthy and always nasty Super Bowl-champion defense, beat the Broncos 30-27 in overtime Sunday on the road a week after losing at home to a team currently on the fringe of the playoff picture.

The single most important game of the most anticipated Chiefs season in a decade came down to an oblong ball bouncing one way off an upright. The Chiefs are 8-3, somehow, a stunt devil of a team surviving near wreck after actual wreck after near wreck after actual wreck after near wreck and it’s all so hard to keep track of anymore.

“Nothing like going to your momma and getting a hug after a game like that,” Chiefs cornerback Kenneth Acker said.

Here’s how the Chiefs made it through their biggest game:

A safety, a free kick returned for a touchdown, another touchdown with the quarterback uninvolved by design … and then that struggling quarterback forcing overtime with a last-minute drive in the fourth quarter on a touchdown that came on instant replay.

In between, the defense had no chance of covering Emmanuel Sanders, their long snapper recovered a fumbled punt forced by a gunner who has essentially been replaced in the offense by a fifth-round pick who just became the first man since Gale Sayers to score on a run, catch, and return in the same game.

Typical, right?

This team only makes sense if you let go and accept that nothing in the NFL makes sense (except for conspiracy theories about the Patriots).

They just won a game in which they were outgained by 191 yards, and ran a play apparently designed to get their fourth-string tight end the ball in space.

This is probably not a great team. They may not even be a good team. But as the calendar changes to December they are a surviving team, maybe even a thriving team, and despite all their warts and shortcomings have milked enough from their talents and strengths to be in position to win the NFL’s best division without a lick of help from anyone else.

Look around the AFC. There are no great teams. Surviving, and maybe thriving, is as good as it gets right now.


“Me, I’m looking down the road,” safety Eric Berry said. “That’s just how I rock. Period. I’m going to enjoy it, I’m excited for it, I’m glad we showed heart, but there’s a lot of things we can clean up on.”

A disproportionate amount of this depends on Alex Smith, and coach Andy Reid’s ability to extract his handpicked quarterback’s best. Reid is respected around the league for his work with quarterbacks, and if he can get Smith back to what he was in 2015, the Chiefs have more than a puncher’s chance. But this version of Smith isn’t good enough.

This is three consecutive poor performances after suffering those two non-concussions in Indianapolis. He missed repeated touchdown opportunities against the Panthers, threw a predetermined and game-breaking interception against the Bucs, and was the quarterback equivalent of a hand-cranked bicycle stuck in mud for 3 7/8 quarters against the Broncos.

Smith deserves credit for performing late. He completed 12 of 18 passes for 119 yards and a touchdown from the last possession of the fourth quarter through overtime. Considering the stakes and the context, his pass to Tyreek Hill on an out route converting on fourth and 10 on that touchdown drive in the fourth quarter may have been his best of the season.

“Since he’s been back from whatever it was, the hit to the head, things haven’t gone as smooth as they were going prior to,” Reid said. “But he just kept battling and battling and battling, which he does. Everybody’s down on him, and then boom, he comes through, and that shows you the mental toughness.”

Reid’s mention of Smith’s performance in the three games since returning is as close as the coach will ever come to criticizing the quarterback.


But, really, he’s only confirming what we all see. Because Smith doesn’t look the same. His pocket presence is skittish at best. His willingness and ability to run — always one of his greatest assets — is now mostly a memory.

For his part, Smith says the scare in Indianapolis has nothing to do with his struggles since.

“I feel totally the same,” he said. “To be honest, it probably has more to do with the coincidence of the scheduling. We faced some pretty good defenses here in a row. To face this defense on the road, coming off the bye, it’s a tough test. I think it probably has more to do with that than anything else.”

This can be read as Smith trying to convince himself, or the quarterback admitting the Chiefs can’t move the ball against the league’s better defenses. Either way, less than terrific.

Because the Chiefs are judged on a different standard now. A winner’s standard. That’s how they judge themselves, which is why even after these exhilarating wins against the Broncos and Panthers the postgame locker room has been filled with guys talking about all the mistakes they made.

The difference between controlling their future and something much more tenuous is three football miracles — the biggest comeback in franchise history against the Chargers, Marcus Peters’ strip-and-punt against the Panthers, and this long list of earned and fortunate breaks against the Broncos.

The Chiefs have much more to celebrate than curse. Their resilience should be a point of pride, not a tool to poke holes when every team they’re competing with has flaws.


The Chiefs have been clear about what they expect this season, and they know they need to be better than this. Some of that can come with health. But a lot of it needs to come from the guys already playing, starting with the quarterback.
Posts: 1,242
MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MatriculatingHank Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:21 AM   #2
TigeRRUppeRRcut TigeRRUppeRRcut is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: 19th Hole
Casino cash: $10004725
Mellinger articles are complete shit along with Teichers.
Posts: 11,680
TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:22 AM   #3
In58men In58men is offline
I didn’t say mud, I said crud.
 
In58men's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Casino cash: $-1561974
I miss Josh Looney
__________________
Attendance Chief record 11-9
Posts: 30,926
In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:36 AM   #4
Fish Fish is offline
Ain't no relax!
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $-1491081
It was a great win. But he's right this team is seriously flawed, and it starts with Smith...
__________________
Posts: 48,894
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:38 AM   #5
TigeRRUppeRRcut TigeRRUppeRRcut is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: 19th Hole
Casino cash: $10004725
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish View Post
It was a great win. But he's right this team is seriously flawed, and it starts with Smith...
It starts with health you mouth breathing ape
Posts: 11,680
TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.TigeRRUppeRRcut < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:43 AM   #6
Fish Fish is offline
Ain't no relax!
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $-1491081
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut View Post
It starts with health you mouth breathing ape
It starts with Alex Smith playing like his typical dogshit self for 35 out of 37 minutes of possession.
__________________
Posts: 48,894
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 09:03 AM   #7
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $750478
u guys seem like an avg team playing above its head...just relax and enjoy the ride til it ends baby! this could be a fun season...not a great one but a fun one maybe?

just enjoy the wins! we went thru this with tebow

~j
Posts: 297,571
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 09:13 AM   #8
Great Expectations Great Expectations is offline
MVP
 
Great Expectations's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Joplin, MO
Casino cash: $10682338
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish View Post
It starts with Alex Smith playing like his typical dogshit self for 35 out of 37 minutes of possession.
Is it Smith or Reid?

Our routes on third down and when we were ahead were awful.
__________________
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/signaturepics/sigpic11348_1.gif
Posts: 7,308
Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.Great Expectations threw an interception on a screen pass.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 09:19 AM   #9
Sandy Vagina Sandy Vagina is offline
Still Got The Blues (For You)
 
Sandy Vagina's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2013
Casino cash: $10014178
Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Expectations View Post
Is it Smith or Reid?

Our routes on third down and when we were ahead were awful.
Both will pucker up with any sort of lead... but yeah.. last night's game showed me that Andy Reid is the trigger-man.. Smith is just the gun.

They became so used to having to be conservative and lean on the D/STs.. that it's stuck tight. Reality is.. and especially if getting JMac back (and therefore Wilson back to the bench).. and if Kelce can catch far more than drop...

This offense can really help out more.

It's up to Andy... but I don't think he is capable of changing, unless forced to at the end of games.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by a brilliant vag
Good luck to Pat and the Chiefs!
Posts: 16,482
Sandy Vagina has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 09:24 AM   #10
DaFace DaFace is offline
Kind of a mod
 
DaFace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
Casino cash: $-1933101
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut View Post
It starts with health you mouth breathing ape
You are quickly becoming one of the most obnoxious posters on this board, and I've been an Alex defender all along.
Posts: 53,155
DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 09:35 AM   #11
Fish Fish is offline
Ain't no relax!
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $-1491081
Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Expectations View Post
Is it Smith or Reid?

Our routes on third down and when we were ahead were awful.
I think it might be a bit of both. I believe Reid gets himself overwhelmed with his cutesy offensive planning. But still, it's very evident that Smith is continuously missing wide open receivers all over the field. Smith's downfield vision is erratic, dependent on current game momentum and confidence. Which makes him very frustrating most of the time.
__________________
Posts: 48,894
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 09:40 AM   #12
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $2055047
Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Expectations View Post
Is it Smith or Reid?

Our routes on third down and when we were ahead were awful.
That's all great until you look at all of the routes that Smith is missing. I'm pretty sure that Reid isn't drawing up a 1 yard out to Albert Wilson on 3rd and 9. That's just ONE of the routes being run. It's up to Smith to find the open man.
Posts: 92,316
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 12:17 PM   #13
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is offline
Consuming CP souls
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
Casino cash: $118880
Plays completely different when they have to score. It's so weird.
__________________
****Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner****
Posts: 73,027
Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:13 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.