Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks

[carcosa]

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.

[wachashi]

I don’t what’s changed this season that could fully explain Mahomes’ struggles, but that boy ain’t right. My best guess is that the trauma of last Super Bowl has given him PTSD in the pocket. But who knows.

[FAH-Q]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

That’s not true though. We caught a huge break today with Love playing. We lose that game if Rodgers is playing.

Fair enough. Good point.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

He really looks unhealthy. Dude can barely walk.

When has he ever looked healthy?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

No offense but I’ve seen this a lot and it’s like people have never watched him play. Mahomes is an elite pocket passer from day one.

I am about half way through last season and it is probably a 2-1 ratio of out of pocket TD's vs in pocket.

He is Favre not Brady.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by jd1020

When has he ever looked healthy?

He has always been obese, but it's different now.

[Chiefspants]

He’s going through a rut. I think he’ll get out of it.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Bowser

He has always been obese, but it's different now.

I'll be honest, I turned that game off as soon as Hill caught the game winning first down. I didn't see how he looked walking across the field.

[Baby Lee]

I don't think the things that are wrong are injury or distraction [at least off-field distraction].

In a balance as delicate as this, the mere passing consideration of thinking about what you DON'T want to do can alter what you DO want to do.

That little bit of his mind thinking [stay in the pocket, don't drop too deep, this guy sucks, this guy has drops, don't lead this guy too much, lead that guy a little more] instead of acting can be just enough, particularly if it snowballs.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am about half way through last season and it is probably a 2-1 ratio of out of pocket TD's vs in pocket.

He is Favre not Brady.

He is otherworldly out of the pocket, but mostly that’s when other things are going well, such as passing from the pocket with accurate darts to any part of the field that keeps defenses watching the receivers instead of Mahomes. He is an elite pocket passer and finds open receivers and holes as good as any when he’s reading the field. Right now he’s been bailing too soon, abandoning plays and routes, and allowing defenders to watch him which is why there are so many tipped INTs. Today he was better at staying in the pocket and surprise, no INTs.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

That’s not true though. We caught a huge break today with Love playing. We lose that game if Rodgers is playing.

Not only that but we've been healthier than every opponent. We've played against teams decimated with injuries. Just haven't taken advantage until the last two games (and only barely at that).

[TEX]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I wonder how much we miss having Fisher and Schwartz to buy him a bit of time from edge rushers? It still always seems like the rush is in his lap

I think this is a huge part of it.

[Cosmos]

I wonder if Andy is able to do for this team, what he’s done the past few years.

The offense needs to adjust, and coaches need to create and coach these changes in a way that the players can pick up and execute.

The passing game is Andy’s baby, and it’s a mess, Bienemy never seemed to have the responsibility of creating and scheming the passing game, and Kafka is an unknown.

Is there something to this possibly?

[displacedinMN]

How can he play at that high of a level all the time? He took a breath. Had a kid. Lost a SB.


He will climb to the top again.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

That one Mecole dropped might have stuck in his facemask if his hands weren't in the way...

Yep.

[Chiefnj2]

I don’t know if I’ve seen an offense look so uncomfortable executing underneath routes and taking what the defense is giving them.

I know it was a brutal offensive game on both sides of the ball, but Aikman and Buck were about as exciting as watching paint dry. Aikman is a huge bore. He could break things down like Romo, but he refuses to do anything but state the obvious.