Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick in the 2025 NFL draft?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Burden has no off the field issues….

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

His off-field issues are pretty much bullshit.

“His girlfriend and mom are involved!” OK, whatever.

“He doesn’t practice hard!” He didn’t need to.

“He’s high-maintenance!” I mean, he’s a legit WR, brah. Which ones are not?

“He said quit against Alabama!” Did you watch the quality of play from Drew Pyne in that game? You wouldn’t try, either.

“He got his ass licked his entire career to stay!” Tell me you hate NIL and player agency without telling me you hate NIL and player agency.

Well...they have one WR who may miss some time this year due to suspension so I'm just not sure they're willing to get into that whole thing.

Maybe I'm off though.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well...they have one WR who may miss some time this year due to suspension so I'm just not sure they're willing to get into that whole thing.

Maybe I'm off though.

Luther Burden literally had nothing off the field and all this originated from an anonymous source….

People are reaching to find something that just isn’t there.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well...they have one WR who may miss some time this year due to suspension so I'm just not sure they're willing to get into that whole thing.

Maybe I'm off though.

Dead ****ing off.

That's like saying they would never draft another WR with an ego because TO was a dick to Andy 20 years ago. Just lazy logic.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Dead ****ing off.

That's like saying they would never draft another WR with an ego because TO was a dick to Andy 20 years ago. Just lazy logic.

Well, they traded away the HOF WR that was a bit of an issue off field, now are having more issues.

Maybe it's just a WR thing you have to deal with, I dunno.

They've also spent a 1/2/2 on Wr's in consecutive drafts so I'm guessing they won't spend another 1 on one.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well...they have one WR who may miss some time this year due to suspension so I'm just not sure they're willing to get into that whole thing.

Maybe I'm off though.

But there's really not a "whole thing" with Burden.

I've met the guy. He's brash as hell on the field...not really off of it. At least not as a general rule.

Short story -- my buddy is at his oldest kids basketball game. His youngest has Leukemia (doing very well) and so she's become something of a mascot for Mizzou athletics this year. My friend has gotten to know some of these guys fairly well and Drink is sitting behind him at the game.

Drink starts face-timing with Burden after he runs his 40. Luther was evidently happy with his time. Whatever the case may be, he just says "Hey man, wanna talk to my friend X (my buddy's daughter)?"

Drink hands her his phone and Burden spends 10+ minutes after running his 40 chatting with this bald, waterlogged 7 year old who's just grinning from ear to ear.

To NO public benefit. Nobody knows that shit. There was no reason for him to have done it. He just did because he was there.

Luther Burden is nothing resembling a bad dude. He might - MIGHT - have some practice habit concerns. But that guy put his body in harms way every single Saturday trying to corral scattershot passes from his erratic, noodle-armed QB. He watched his draft stock get drilled last season with a funky offense and bad QB play and didn't bitch (loudly) about it.

There's zero reason to hammer Burden's character and honestly it has gotten to the point that the Draft Industrial Complex is just pissing me off because they're doing so. It's not fair to him at all.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

I'm not necessarily advocating for Burden, as I think the Chiefs have other issues that need addressed at 31, but in the 2024 Draft he's a surefire Top 15 pick and likely Top 10, as I bet the Bears take him at #9 instead of Odunze.

And nothing about him changed between that draft and this draft, other than shit QB play this season at Mizzou.

Just sayin . . . . .

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

I'm not necessarily advocating for Burden, as I think the Chiefs have other issues that need addressed at 31, but in the 2024 Draft he's a surefire Top 15 pick and likely Top 10, as I bet the Bears take him at #9 instead of Odunze.

And nothing about him changed between that draft and this draft, other than shit QB play this season at Mizzou.

Just sayin . . . . .

But history has shown, even guys with shit Qb play go early if they're worth that.

[SAGA45]

- Jihaad Campbell, LB, Alabama
- Grey Zabel, OL, NDSU

My guesses.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

- Jihaad Campbell, LB, Alabama
- Grey Zabel, OL, NDSU

My guesses.

I love Jihaad, but wouldn't we have to trade up pretty significantly to get him? Like to the top 15?

[Titty Meat]

I would be pretty surprised if they took a WR round 1

[KCJake]

Really hard to pass on Luther Burden III if he's still there..

[DJ's left nut]

Well just putting a stopwatch on him from the 25 to the 15 (when he seems mostly unimpeded and has had a couple steps to get back to speed) I had him at a 1.33 split over those 10 yards.

That's a 5.3. With a bit of a running start.

Yiiiiiiiiiiikes.

[srvy]

If Burden is there at 31 I'd be very surprised. I would also be surprised if we traded up to go get him. We simply have more pressing needs, particularly nose LT edge rusher, corner, and RB. I guess I am less worried about whether Burden is lazy in practice but is he coachable? I haven't heard anything about this so I'd assume that's not an issue.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by srvy

If Burden is there at 31 I'd be very surprised. I would also be surprised if we traded up to go get him. We simply have more pressing needs, particularly nose LT edge rusher, corner, and RB. I guess I am less worried about whether Burden is lazy in practice but is he coachable? I haven't heard anything about this so I'd assume that's not an issue.

Staff loves him.

Now how much of that is forward facing? Who knows; public glazing to keep the talent in CoMo sort of thing.

But like I said, he was face-timing with Drink at the combine. Dude was gone -- out of the program at that point. And still chatting it up with the head coach back in Columbia.

I don't think there are coaching concerns with him at all.

But/for some of the most bizarre and inexplicable use patterns I've ever seen at Mizzou, he'd be a top 15 pick and in the running for WR1, IMO. He's a blue-chip talent. But we used him as a crutch for a mediocre QB so his game didn't develop a lick in his platform season (really, it regressed in some ways) and that's hurt him a bit in draft head circles.

I hope it pushes him down to us. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't. He's Rice but better. Physical, fast, great hands, incredible body control. He's a first round talent all day.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Staff loves him.

Now how much of that is forward facing? Who knows; public glazing to keep the talent in CoMo sort of thing.

But like I said, he was face-timing with Drink at the combine. Dude was gone -- out of the program at that point. And still chatting it up with the head coach back in Columbia.

I don't think there are coaching concerns with him at all.

But/for some of the most bizarre and inexplicable use patterns I've ever seen at Mizzou, he'd be a top 15 pick and in the running for WR1, IMO. He's a blue-chip talent. But we used him as a crutch for a mediocre QB so his game didn't develop a lick in his platform season (really, it regressed in some ways) and that's hurt him a bit in draft head circles.

I hope it pushes him down to us. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't. He's Rice but better. Physical, fast, great hands, incredible body control. He's a first round talent all day.

Agreed that he is Rice, but better.

He can do all the things that Rice can do, but has more tricks in his bag. Fast enough to be a legit downfield threat, with the carrying speed to NOT get caught from behind.

I've said before, he's somewhere betwee 95 and 98 percent of Jamar Chase, in terms of physical abilities and skills (except I have seen Burden win a ton of routes without pushig off, and I'm not sure I can say the same about Jamar).