Chiefs two things hurt us...not going for the FG and the crappy late hit on the QB call - Page 2

kcpasco · 09-20-2009, 02:17 PM

You can argue the panzyness of that call if you want to, but the refs are gonna protect the qb at all cost.

They might as well start wearing skirts.

suds79 · 09-20-2009, 02:20 PM

This thread should be renamed "all the things that cost us"

- Penalties
- Cassel's pass to Savage before 1/2.
- The personal foul on Russell late.
- The poor STs play. (Beisel)

tonyetony · 09-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Yipee we're winning the draft position battle. That fourth quarter conditioning really paid off today. Ineptitude has been our curse for decades. JFC after that many mental mistakes I know what it feels like to be a Raiders fan.

R&GHomer · 09-20-2009, 02:39 PM

The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy.

**Manila-Chief** · 09-20-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy.

Yes, but the rookie needs to learn that he can "touch" players when they are on the ground.

R&GHomer · 09-20-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Yes, but the rookie needs to learn that he can "touch" players when they are on the ground.

True, but as I understand the rules that was a legal hit. I can see how they called it, but they were wrong. Just like if a qb is running in space and doesn't slide feet first he's an open target. The rules are the rules.

All that said, we didn't deserve to win this game. Horrible mistakes, just stupid. I think the 0 pass rush on 3 and 15 was inexcusable.

**RNR** · 09-20-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

True, but as I understand the rules that was a legal hit. I can see how they called it, but they were wrong. Just like if a qb is running in space and doesn't slide feet first he's an open target. The rules are the rules.

All that said, we didn't deserve to win this game. Horrible mistakes, just stupid. I think the 0 pass rush on 3 and 15 was inexcusable.

I do not agree with the way they protect QBs however with this: (Additions
In addition to roughing the passer, defensive players cannot strike the quarterback below the knees or in the head. Officials may call a roughing the passer penalty if they feel the quarterback's safety is in jeopardy.) added to the rule book they will call that everytime.

craneref · 09-20-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

True, but as I understand the rules that was a legal hit. I can see how they called it, but they were wrong. Just like if a qb is running in space and doesn't slide feet first he's an open target. The rules are the rules.

All that said, we didn't deserve to win this game. Horrible mistakes, just stupid. I think the 0 pass rush on 3 and 15 was inexcusable.

Excellent point, Jamrcus Russell fell FORWARD with the ball and was not touched, he did not give himself up. A QB sith the ball in his hands and not slideing feet first is a runner, and is open game. Would they have thrown a flag on the Chiefs if that had been McFadden, of course not. Still inexcusable to let Russell drive down the field at the end of the game.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-20-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy.

Only losers complain about the refs

donkhater · 09-20-2009, 02:42 PM

Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time.

Another TO there would've been useful.

KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent.

R&GHomer · 09-20-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time.

Another TO there would've been useful.

KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent.

Yep

LaChapelle · 09-20-2009, 02:42 PM

The facemask call on Savage was a bit suspect.

Red Dawg · 09-20-2009, 02:45 PM

No pash rush is the blame for the loss. The other is Cassel's two picks and the brain fart before the half.

Mecca · 09-20-2009, 02:47 PM

The late hit call it just part of how the league wants games called the refs called it like they're told to.

**Manila-Chief** · 09-20-2009, 02:48 PM

I was on the phone with my daughter (wife on the other end), I had to hang up after the penalty. I was sick!!!

But, look on the other side ... if Oakland had a decent QB we would not have had a chance. The defense held only because of Russel.

Going to be a very long season.

09-20-2009, 02:17 PM	#1
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09-20-2009, 02:20 PM	#2
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09-20-2009, 02:39 PM	#4
R&GHomer Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10004900	The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy. __________________ Tod Haley: "I just want to coach well, have our team play well and make this city proud of us again."
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donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time. Another TO there would've been useful. KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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Manila-Chief Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis/Miss Casino cash: $10006883	I was on the phone with my daughter (wife on the other end), I had to hang up after the penalty. I was sick!!! But, look on the other side ... if Oakland had a decent QB we would not have had a chance. The defense held only because of Russel. Going to be a very long season.
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