Man I hope TNA gets good cause RAW has officially died

[chiefscafan]

I'm watching raws Jerry springer episode this is awful. Raw PG is not raw anymore it's crap TV. Hogan please save wrestling.

Sorry had to say something

[chiefscafan]

Personally I loved cena when he started. I mean he use to wear the rivals jersey of the town they were in and his finishing move was the FU now it's called something else and him telling how much he lives for wrestling blah blah. Oh yeah and. Taking off his shirt flexing and saying u want some come get some. Hmm they've turned him into a joke but Vince is so damn arrogant that he thinks no one can challenge him. Man is he in for a shock when TNA goes head to head no real threat we will see Vince.

[Galileo Humpkins]

I was likened to a fourteen year old boy blogging about how he hates Coldplay when shredding last night's RAW into pieces. Apparently, some WWE fanboys have the intellectual capacity of a kumquat which indirectly explains why they would find amusement in any attempt the writer's make towards comedy.

As for competition, I don't hold much hope in TNA nor wrestling in general. While this appears to be legit attempt at triggering another boom period in the wrestling industry, I'm not convinced it's going to happen or at least to the extent it did in the late 90s'.

With the rise of popularity within MMA, I think wrestling [or "sports entertainment"] will gradually decrease in popularity as it has over the last decade. TNA is really the only company that is financially able to solidify themselves as the number two promotion in North America with hopes of becoming a legitimate threat. If they were to fail, I don't think you'll be seeing another promotion come along and endanger WWE's foundation in a looong time, if ever.

[Brock]

There are zero compelling personalities in wrestling right now. And yeah, MMA.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

Bring back the old ECW, please, kthx.

The absolute greatest. There was nothing better than going to ECW house shows and going to the Viking Arena in South Philly.

[kcxiv]

why do poeple say MMA over Wrestling? they arent even remotely the same kind of event. lol Wrestling is a soap opera for males young and old. MMA is fighting for people wanting to see real fights.

I watch a little of TNA. I havent been able to watch RAW in a long ass time. I like what HOgan is doing. As long as he gives the younger guys a big push and throws them up against the old school fighters and dont let them old school fighters win to much, then it should do ok

I watched their PPV lastnight, it wasnt to bad. I liked how the nasty boys beat 3d because of Jimmy Hart. that was old school classic and made me smile from ear to ear. lol The mouth of the south. NEver thought i would see him again.

[chiefscafan]

Hmm let's see I'm ignorant because I'm stating how WWE has fallen off oh well guess u can't have an opinion.

If u thought the whole Jerry springer thing was funny good 4 u. Me on the other hand made me go this is a train wreck. Kali said it best a big waste. Of time. Sorry if u don't agree but in my mind it proves Vince is like I can do anything and these suckers will eat it up. So u r doing exactlly what he wants but if u r enjoying the way it is then keep watching. Me and the rest of the older guys out there want more and if hogan and bischoff can deliever then we will watch TNA you can watch WWE.

[jwazzie]

I love wrestling (I shouldn't) but I it will never be like it was 10 years ago when I had to be home to watch it. One of my favorite wrestlers ever was Ahmed Johnson. He only lasted a couple of years (1994-1996?) and had a great feud with Gold dust. Why it worked backed then is because of the storytelling and not the sideshows.

P.S. Undertaker is my favorite, and i will stop watching it when he retires (hopefully soon)

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Tango&Cash

The Rock
Stone Cold
Goldberg (to some degree)
nWo
DX

These guys/groups made wrestling in the 90's and early 2000's

Once these guys left, WWE had no talent or marketable personalities to match them. I mean they had the older guys like Undertaker, Kane, Triple H, HBK, and so on. But nothing compared to the 3 above, esp Rock and Austin, those 2 took America by storm. Shit I still like the Rock, even though he's a shitty actor and his movies are crap not counting Walking Tall and The Rundown.

Even Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, John Cena aka the whitest mexican thug on the planet, are all junk characters.

That and MMA became absolutely HUGE in America. Add that to the fact that Pro wrestling is fake and MMA is real, then you lose a lot of fanbase, and Lesnar didn't help WWE too much by leaving for UFC.

I agree! The Rock (nation of domination), Stonecold, DegenerationX with Chyna, HBK, and The 1,2,3 Kid was awesome.

[Mile High Mania]

I watched wrestling for years as a kid and off and on until I started having kids... I tune in now and then just to see what is happening. There are too many matches each week with the same wrestlers involved. Everything leads up to the next PPV and I get why they do it, but there's a lot of younger talent that is being ignored.

How many segments can they really burn with Cena, Orton and the other 'names' running their mouths before it gets old in one show?

I think the WWE has spread itself too thin with so much programming and the multiple 'brands'. I can't imagine there are too many people that watch each of the shows, sure they exist... but, that would have been more than I cared to handle back when I was a fan.

Raw, ECW (which really is the furthest thing from what it truly was) and Smackdown... those are the 3 'premium' brands with stars scattered across them. I think it's a failed bit and with no competition, why would they change.

If TNA can take this momentum and ride it hard against RAW, then you will see a mind shift in how they approach the brands. TNA has the one show, so focus all their 'names' and 'faces' hard and heavy early and often, sprinkling in the new guys. Then, over the course of 6 months, you begin to truly develop the younger wrestlers and you'll steal more away.

They have many lessons learned from the death of WCW, hopefully their egos won't allow them to make the same mistakes twice. It's funny to see the Nasty Boys, Scott Hall, etc back, but c'mon... they were done 10 years ago. They don't even try most of the time.

It will be interesting to see what happens, but you have as many big egos at TNA now as they have in WWE... there's no guarantee they'll do things right. But, their timing is great right now.

I became a WWE fan in the 80s when the other federations were swallowed up... I became a WCW fan in the 90s. There's a need for a strong #2 and TNA is in a hell of a position right now, hopefully they'll do things right.

[OmahaChief]

As long as TNA does not just put over all the old guys they brought in and are actually gonig to push some young guys they should be OK. I hate the fact they are going to a square ring. I like the six sided ring, that was Hogan's idea to get ride of the one most identifiable image of TNA. Guys like Styles, Daniels, Pope, Hernandez, Amaxing Red and others have a ton of put they need to have the older guys put them over to make them. I hope they do this.

WWE is junk anymore. I can't even watch the majority of the show as the wrestling is terrible, the plots are worse and seeing the same 4 guys battle for the title for the majority of the last 4 years is lame.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I loved wrestling when I was 12. I am a huge MMA fan now and while flipping through the channels I saw some wrestling. It was hilarious at how fake it was. Why do people pay good money to watch that garbage. I can see why if you have a son but otherwise I don't get it.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

I loved wrestling when I was 12. I am a huge MMA fan now and while flipping through the channels I saw some wrestling. It was hilarious at how fake it was. Why do people pay good money to watch that garbage. I can see why if you have a son but otherwise I don't get it.

I don't think the majority of people watch it or have watched it because they thought it was real... as a kid, sure I never believed my parents when they would say "You know, the Great Kabuki, the Von Erichs and Freebirds all go to dinner when the show is over."

But, I liked the "event" feel, you were watching a male soap opera essentially...

[The Franchise]

Wrestling went to shit when McMahon bought WCW and ECW.

[chiefscafan]

Mile high that's what i've been saying when Vince is challenged wwe will be great he's believing his own press. I mean every week they claim to be the top rated cable show blah blah. It's gonna take a major challenge from TNA but it will happen and then WWE will change for the better.

[Galileo Humpkins]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

why do poeple say MMA over Wrestling? they arent even remotely the same kind of event.

I think the connection is due to mixed martial arts appealing to the audience of wrestling fans that embrace the actual wrestling aspect of it as opposed to the storylines and hyperbolic plots. MMA has definitely "stole" an amount of wrestling fans, but it's certainly not significant enough for the WWE to panic.

Also, you have independent promotions trying to copy the mold of MMA by incorporating "worked fights" into the event. Which is essentially a more barbaric wrestling match with stiff kicks, slaps, etc. I don't comprehend the significance of faking an MMA fight, but it's becoming a trend in the smaller region of promotions. Gabe Sapolsky, former booker of Ring of Honor, is someone who has a fetish for those type of matches.

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Wrestling went to shit when McMahon bought WCW and ECW.

Yep. Wrestling used to be cool when you were a teenager, but considering the state it's transitioned into over the last decade, it has become more of a chore than a hobby.