Will the Chiefs still draft a QB?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

With Cassel/Stanzi/Quinn now on board, do you think they we still draft a QB?


I say no...

I think Quinn was brought in because of his familiarity with Daboll's offense. -Won't be cut-

Both Cassel is Pioli golden-boy and Stanzi was drafted under Pioli. -Niether will be cut-

We aren't going to go into the season with 4 QBs on the roster.

[mnchiefsguy]

I voted no. We might pick one up in the later rounds, but that would just be for training camp fodder, so I did not count that. I think the signing of Quinn sealed the deal. Cassel, Quinn, and Stanzi will be our qb's, and probably in that order.

[saphojunkie]

They absolutely should not draft a QB this year. You are automatically reaching for anyone, because the elite propects are gone. If we can trade down, then hopefully it gives us firepower to move up next year for Landry or another top prospect.

**** Barkley though. USC turd quarterbacks.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

They absolutely should not draft a QB this year. You are automatically reaching for anyone, because the elite propects are gone. If we can trade down, then hopefully it gives us firepower to move up next year for Landry or another top prospect.

**** Barkley though. USC turd quarterbacks.

So drafting a project late is a reach?

[buddha]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

They absolutely should not draft a QB this year. You are automatically reaching for anyone, because the elite propects are gone. If we can trade down, then hopefully it gives us firepower to move up next year for Landry or another top prospect.

**** Barkley though. USC turd quarterbacks.

This is so jacked up, it's hard to know where to begin.

"Elite" QBs only go at the top of the first round, right? Tom Brady, Joe Montana and a host of others are laughing at you.

And, for my money, if KC could get Barkley next year, I wouldn't think twice...you do that in a heart beat.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by buddha

This is so jacked up, it's hard to know where to begin.

"Elite" QBs only go at the top of the first round, right? Tom Brady, Joe Montana and a host of others are laughing at you.

And, for my money, if KC could get Barkley next year, I wouldn't think twice...you do that in a heart beat.

Elite QB PROSPECTS - that's different than elite QB. The guys with obvious, unarguable potential go early. Tannehill at 11?? Are you ****ing kidding me?

And if one more person brings up Tom Brady as an example of how to draft and develope a QB I'm going to murder someone.

People win the lottery. That doesn't make it a good bet.

Did you watch Barkley? Living in LA, I end up seeing a lot of USC games. The guy just seems way too overhyped for me. It's the same as Palmer, leinert, Sanchez...surrounded by NFL talent in a weak conference. The guy had the best left tackle in the draft and two LEGIT first round picks at wide receiver.

No thanks.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

They absolutely should not draft a QB this year. You are automatically reaching for anyone, because the elite propects are gone. If we can trade down, then hopefully it gives us firepower to move up next year for Landry or another top prospect.

**** Barkley though. USC turd quarterbacks.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

So drafting a project late is a reach?

It's a bandaid.

We did that with Stanzi. I want a TOP qb prospect that the players, coaches, and front office are behind as the future from day one.

Enough projects.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

It sucks. I'm not saying it doesn't. But it's the reality of missing out on Manning, Luck, and RG3.

I don't want us to go Vikings style and reach for a Christian Ponder.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Elite QB PROSPECTS - that's different than elite QB. The guys with obvious, unarguable potential go early. Tannehill at 11?? Are you ****ing kidding me?

And if one more person brings up Tom Brady as an example of how to draft and develope a QB I'm going to murder someone.

People win the lottery. That doesn't make it a good bet.

Did you watch Barkley? Living in LA, I end up seeing a lot of USC games. The guy just seems way too overhyped for me. It's the same as Palmer, leinert, Sanchez...surrounded by NFL talent in a weak conference. No thanks.

Sell me on 4 or 5 quarterbacks coming out next year that are better than Tanehill.

With the amount of talent this team has, we will almost assuredly make the playoffs and be picking well out of range of the elite guys.

If I have the choice between taking Tanehill now (while Cassel is entrenched as the starter, anyway and Tanehill could sit and learn as he should) or waiting next year HOPING FOR A GUY LIKE LANDRY ****ING JONES....well, Ill take the bird in the hand.

From what I can tell, the kid has natural instincts for the position...has a live arm...is very mobile...is smart...

His only real drawback seems to be inexperience. Te rest is there.

If you say Landry Jones, Im gonna kindly ask you to go to your local wal mart...purchase 1 large glass and a gallon of Peak Antifreeze (tm) and dont stop drinking that shit till the jug is gone.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Elite QB PROSPECTS - that's different than elite QB. The guys with obvious, unarguable potential go early. Tannehill at 11?? Are you ****ing kidding me?

And if one more person brings up Tom Brady as an example of how to draft and develope a QB I'm going to murder someone.

People win the lottery. That doesn't make it a good bet.

Did you watch Barkley? Living in LA, I end up seeing a lot of USC games. The guy just seems way too overhyped for me. It's the same as Palmer, leinert, Sanchez...surrounded by NFL talent in a weak conference. No thanks.

Obvious, unarguable potential like who??? David Carr, Joey Harrington, Ryan Leaf...the list goes on and on. Are YOU f'ing kidding me???

Don't like Tom Brady. Fine. What about Drew Brees? Don't like him? Okay, I could name a dozen other non-first round, non "elite" QBs who had very productive NFL careers. However, we all know that you don't have to be a high first round pick to develop into a great QB in the NFL, right?

I watched Barkley too...I live in California and see most USC games. You give nothing to back up your dislike for Barkley. The kid can make all of the throws, he's very competitive, and he is a leader. I'm not a USC fan, but that kid looks pretty darn good to me.

[saphojunkie]

Landry Jones. Request denied.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by buddha

Obvious, unarguable potential like who??? David Carr, Joey Harrington, Ryan Leaf...the list goes on and on. Are YOU f'ing kidding me???

Don't like Tom Brady. Fine. What about Drew Brees? Don't like him? Okay, I could name a dozen other non-first round, non "elite" QBs who had very productive NFL careers. However, we all know that you don't have to be a high first round pick to develop into a great QB in the NFL, right?

I watched Barkley too...I live in California and see most USC games. You give nothing to back up your dislike for Barkley. The kid can make all of the throws, he's very competitive, and he is a leader. I'm not a USC fan, but that kid looks pretty darn good to me.

"the list goes on" is a euphemism for "I have no other examples."

And i gave a very legitimate reason for not liking Barkley. The usc system surrounds good College QB with elite NFL talent. I dont trust Barkley at all to transition to the pros, where the other team has speed, size, and strength as well.

To your other point:

Of COURSE there are plenty of capable quarterbacks take. In later rounds. I'm talking about prospects.

And bringing up busts only supports my point that QB prospects with OBVIOUS potential are snagged as early as possible.

[BossChief]

Every ****ing year we hear this total crap.

"next year is better to get our franchise quarterback"

then, next year comes and

"well, we are just out of range....just look at how many franchise quarterbacks are in the next draft"

rinse and repeat.

Is Tanehill a sure thing?

No, no draft pick is.

Does he have the tools to do everything that Cassel does?

Without question he does, and the potential to do a whole lot more.

He isnt a pussy, so he does have that going for him.

[buddha]

sapho...you can't even argue your own point. The point is that there are busts at every stage of the draft. There are very few sure things out there, especially at the QB position. Obvious potential means nothing, Ryan Leaf had more "obvious potential" than did Peyton Manning (according to most GMs and draft experts at the time).

Greatness at QB is not dependent on being a high first round pick.

As for euphemisms...I have no interest in listing 50 busts just for your amusement. You're the one that has the jacked up reasoning here. Show us how many HOF QBs were "elite" prospects coming out of college? Johnny Unitas can't wait to hear you bungle through that strained logic again.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Every ****ing year we hear this total crap.

"next year is better to get our franchise quarterback"

then, next year comes and

"well, we are just out of range....just look at how many franchise quarterbacks are in the next draft"

rinse and repeat.

Is Tanehill a sure thing?

No, no draft pick is.

Does he have the tools to do everything that Cassel does?

Without question he does, and the potential to do a whole lot more.

He isnt a pussy, so he does have that going for him.

I'm with you BossChief. I think Tannehill has at least as much talent as Dalton did a year ago, and Dalton looks like he will do well in Cincy...with very marginal talent around him. I don't think Tannehill would be a bad pick at all where the Chiefs are picking.