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Old 04-24-2025, 08:51 AM   #1
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Not that it means ANYTHING, but has there been any reports of the chiefs meeting with Burden? I was just curious.
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Old 04-24-2025, 08:55 AM   #2
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Not that it means ANYTHING, but has there been any reports of the chiefs meeting with Burden? I was just curious.
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Old 04-24-2025, 08:55 AM   #3
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The Saints are reportedly trying to move down to acquire assets and move back up in late rd 1, presumably for Jaxon Dart.

If we don’t trade up, and the board is dry, I’d listen to the offer. If they're offering top 100 pick I’d probably take the deal.
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Old 04-24-2025, 08:58 AM   #4
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Were there any reports of the Chiefs meeting with Rice or Zay Flowers? I honestly can't remember. I know Mahomes threw the ball around with them but I think that was hush hush?
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Old 04-24-2025, 09:41 AM   #5
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Could TE be the under radar pick? IMO have 4 TEs that move the needle and 3 may go in first and the 4th might not be around for our 2nd. I think Mason Taylor at 31 would be surprising, but would make some sense.
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Old 04-24-2025, 09:47 AM   #6
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Could TE be the under radar pick? IMO have 4 TEs that move the needle and 3 may go in first and the 4th might not be around for our 2nd. I think Mason Taylor at 31 would be surprising, but would make some sense.
Taylor would be an example of a team trying to replace a HoFer instead of pivot away from him.

It would be a mistake.

I don't think Taylor's a 1st round talent. If he becomes what you hope he becomes, he's a top 10(ish) TE. Which is...fine. But it's not a guy you build your offense around.

If we get Taylor it's because we're just trying to maintain the same thing we've done for years in the hopes that we get a 1 for 1 replacement for the best TE to ever play.

We can't. We won't. Not even if we somehow got Warren. And Taylor ain't Warren.

I'm not interested in a 1st round TE.
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Old 04-24-2025, 09:42 AM   #7
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It’s got to be Burden surely if he’s still around

Would hate to miss out on a guy who could be as productive as Brian Thomas Jr who also went lower than he should.


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Old 04-24-2025, 10:11 AM   #8
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Adams went in the 2nd, no?

Rice did and he'd go first in a Re-draft
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Old 04-24-2025, 10:20 AM   #9
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Adams went in the 2nd, no?

Rice did and he'd go first in a Re-draft
Were they top 10 type talents though?

We've entered "Tom went in the 6th" territory.
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Old 04-24-2025, 10:34 AM   #10
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Were they top 10 type talents though?

We've entered "Tom went in the 6th" territory.
But now you're just operating in a circular loop.

"Top 10 talents don't go in the 2nd. Adams wasn't a top 10 talent because he went in the second..."

He was CLEARLY a top 10 talent, he just got overlooked because his strengths weren't readily apparent and obviously measurable.

My point is that a top 10 raw talent who's talents are more obscured (Adams route-running) can slide. Maybe not at OL or even DL where there's a decided lack of guys who simply have the body types that can do the job.

But at WR? There are a TON of guys every year who are between 5'11" and 6'2" who can run in the 4.4s and who certainly measure the part. The ones that succeed do so in the margins.

I think Burden has shown a ton of potential in those margins.

He's EXACTLY the sort of guy who might slide because he's a guy who's measurables are all very good but who's only flashed the stuff you see in the margins. And I believe that's because of the strangest usage I've seen in the platform season of a blue chip prospect in a very very long time.

Doing what they did to Burden would've been like taking someone like Bijan and putting him at fullback in his platform year coming off an exemplary sophomore season.

What they did with Burden this year was just so very, very strange.
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I'm by no means saying he's a bad prospect. He's a first rounder.

I just take some issue with "top 10 talent".
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I'm by no means saying he's a bad prospect. He's a first rounder.

I just take some issue with "top 10 talent".
Then what the heck are we doing here?

If he's a first rounder, take him at 31!

The rest is semantics.
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The only thing that would really piss me off is if we don’t draft a receiving threat in the first 2 rds.

WR is not in a great place and the room has gone to shit overall the last 2 years.

By far the biggest early need to me. We can get a dynamic stud RB in rd 3 or 4.
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Old 04-24-2025, 11:06 AM   #14
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Burden looks like a Terry Mclaurin with less crisp route running.
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Burden looks like a Terry Mclaurin with less crisp route running.
That comp is close (though I think Egbuka is a McLaurin CLONE).

When you watch tape of him working routes 1x1 against guys, his routes look crisp, and he routinely creates huge amounts of separation. And with his ability to stop, start, cut, and accelerate, he has the physical tools to just route guys the eff up over time.

Re: off-field concerns, he stayed at Mizzou even though he was offered huge money to leave (more than they were paying) and even though he was told it would be better for his stock to work in an offense where he had more help.

He stayed. Loyalty was a factor for him (he also was well compensated).

In he is in a good organization, I don't think it will be a problem. If he's playing for a bad org or with trash QBs, it could be a problem.

I think he'd struggle under Brian Daboll, for example. But send him to Pittsburgh or Kansas City or Buffalo or Baltimore, and I think he does just fine.
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