Chiefs Great Manning Read. Closer To Reality - Page 5

kczoo · 03-20-2012, 05:46 AM

PEYTON MANNING BRINGS LEADERSHIP, BULL'S-EYE TO BRONCOS By: Steve Wyche | NFL Network Published: March 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM

The immediate gushing by Denver Broncos players over the acquisition of future Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning , while emotionally expected, should give fans pause. As great as Manning has been, he is not the sole missing piece. He's close, but relying on him as a crutch is about as dangerous as the Philadelphia Eagles thinking all those flashy transactions last August would make them impenetrable.

The Broncos won the AFC West and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs last season because they played with the aggression of fear. They knew they were a flawed team -- they did lose eight games -- but hid their blemishes with relentlessness, persistence and backed-into-a-corner heart.

The addition of Manning could cause some players to think they've got the crutch, a guy to make up for the weak spots many of them had to compensate for last season. That change in attitude could blow everything up. Manning made it happen in Indianapolis because the team was built around him. He's walking into a roster that is still being sculpted, but with the main pieces already in place for the most part.

Manning is also coming back from nerve and neck injuries that look promising now but could look different after a few AFC West dates with Tamba Hali .

Manning isn't the type to allow for slippage. Whereas many free agents want to feel their way into a new environment and not threaten existing leadership, he walks into town with enough caché to have players following him from the get-go. His abundance of juice made him the only player who could not only douse Tebowmania, but also likely send it packing after Tim Tebow rallied Denver to the playoffs and created a hysteria through effort, belief and something magical.

Manning will hold players accountable and make them take co-ownership. This, after all, will be Manning's last fling at legacy-building and trying to win a Super Bowl.

The Broncos' coaching staff already is shredding much of its playbook from last season, adding its baseline agenda but leaving pages blank for Manning to fill in. The personnel staff is beefing up an offense that lost tight end Daniel Fells and wide receiver Eddie Royal , two nice young players. It's also looking at backup quarterbacks, possibly one in free agency and one to draft.

Frankly, what would be wrong with Denver adding Vince Young and keeping some of the run-pass concepts in its hip pocket in case he's got to play? Young would learn behind one of the best and also give Denver a backup with a twist.

As for the division, Chargers coach Norv Turner said Manning's arrival turned the once one-quarterback AFC West (San Diego's Philip Rivers ) into one that boasts Manning, Oakland's Carson Palmer , Rivers -- and a good Chiefs team. While Denver clearly looks like the March favorite to win the division because of Manning, San Diego quietly has re-stocked in free agency and can't be discounted. The Chiefs won't be a walkover either.

Nobody knows about the Raiders, but with Palmer having an offseason to get ready, they could be as dangerous as any team in the AFC West.

Turner said that even though Denver will be much more of a passing team with Manning at the helm, it won't change how San Diego or other teams build their defenses. Since most teams are pass-first, possessing as many pass rushers, defensive backs and players that can tackle in the open field remains a premium.

"The tie-in is how you get ready to play against them knowing he's there," Turner said.

Last season, Broncos' opponents had to game plan for a running team with a running quarterback. This season, Denver will be more orthodox, even though Manning brings his own set of problems for defensive coordinators.

Then again, the guy running things just put a bull's-eye on the Broncos. Denver faces a schedule as unforgiving as John Elway has been to Tebowmania. The non-divisional schedule is the NFC South (Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta, Carolina), the AFC North (Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh) plus Houston and New England.

Texans linebacker Brian Cushing , who no longer has to face Manning and the Colts twice a season, told me the Texans will be "excited" to play at Denver next season. That's code for: "We beat the Colts with him (rarely) and we'll beat the Broncos with him."

Teams will come at Denver much harder than they came at the Broncos and Tebow last season. Opponents didn't seem to ever take Denver as seriously as they needed to until Tebow made something special happen in the waning moments. Now, they'll be ready before kickoff.

It's a new era in Denver.

Follow Steve Wyche on Twitter @wyche89

boogblaster · 03-20-2012, 09:27 AM

difference is .. manning will make ya play the whole 60 minutes .. he can score late .....

Skyy God · 03-20-2012, 09:57 AM

About that vaunted Denver run game, courtesy of Grantland.....

Quote:

Research has shown that teams with running quarterbacks like Tebow or Michael Vick improve their halfbacks' yards per carry and effectiveness when the run-happy quarterbacks are in the lineup, and then see that same performance disappear when the rushing quarterbacks get injured or go back to the bench. That also stands for Willis McGahee, who averaged 3.8 yards per carry in the games before Tebow entered the lineup at quarterback and 5.2 yards a pop afterward.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...enver-now-what

Extra Point · 03-20-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I thought we were pathetic for not getting him?

"We" were pathetic for slobbering all over possibly getting him.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-20-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie

About that vaunted Denver run game, courtesy of Grantland.....

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...enver-now-what

No defense, no running game. Feels like home for Peyton.

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 12:16 PM

Did FA end today at noon or something?

I realize a lot of the 'big names' signed elsewhere, but there are still moves to be made... I'd love to see them ship their R1 to PIT for Wallace, that would rock. Go get a TE, bring in another RB. Who knows what is up next...

Question - while it's a longshot, it could happen... let's say that Denver were able to trade for Mike Wallace. Can you spin that one into a negative?

vailpass · 03-20-2012, 12:17 PM

Ooh I like this article it makes me feeeel better/chiefs fan

Sofa King · 03-20-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie

About that vaunted Denver run game, courtesy of Grantland.....

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...enver-now-what

lol

bowener · 03-20-2012, 12:55 PM

If Manning only has a proabable 2 or 3 good years left, does that mean his first year will be wasted on trying to get the O on the same page as him?

That kind of chemistry doesn't happen over night... though I am certain KnowMo will inform us all that Peyton's forehead can actually telepathically teach others in their sleep.

I think it is interesting that 2 teams the Broncos play this season are old AFCS rivals of Peyton's. Maybe that will help him or maybe that will hurt him... remains to be seen.

**petegz28** · 03-20-2012, 06:43 PM

Manning's gonna get jacked and that neck is going to snap and dude is gonna quit. I remember when Priest came back. It didn't take much to put him out again. Neck and spinal chord injuries are not to be ****ed with.

TEX · 03-20-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Did FA end today at noon or something?

I realize a lot of the 'big names' signed elsewhere, but there are still moves to be made... I'd love to see them ship their R1 to PIT for Wallace, that would rock. Go get a TE, bring in another RB. Who knows what is up next...

Question - while it's a longshot, it could happen... let's say that Denver were able to trade for Mike Wallace. Can you spin that one into a negative?

Why not? The Cheating Donx have always been allowed to bend the rules. No such thing as a salary cap in Denver. Never was.

**petegz28** · 03-20-2012, 06:46 PM

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Holmes returned to the Kansas City roster, beginning practice on October 17, 2007. Holmes then completed the comeback 4 days later, playing in the Chief's regular season game against the Oakland Raiders, carrying the ball 4 times. Priest made his first start since October 30, 2005 against the San Diego Chargers and played in a home game on November 11, 2007 in a 27-11 loss to the Denver Broncos. Holmes had 20 rushes for 65 yards.[12]

Holmes announced his retirement on November 21, 2007 after re-injuring his neck on the previous Sunday, November 18,

Holmes didn't last a month and that was after a year off.

Tombstone RJ · 03-20-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

not worried about the

. I don't believe they should be division faves based on manning personally. That team sucks.

Cassel agrees with this post.

**petegz28** · 03-20-2012, 06:56 PM

Who are the Broncos WR's now? Royal is gone and he was their best WR, right?

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Who are the Broncos WR's now? Royal is gone and he was their best WR, right?

Umm, yeah... Sure.

**petegz28** · 03-20-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Umm, yeah... Sure.

So who do they have now? Seriously?

03-20-2012, 05:46 AM
kczoo Donkey Trainer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Marshfield Casino cash: $9864900	Great Manning Read. Closer To Reality PEYTON MANNING BRINGS LEADERSHIP, BULL'S-EYE TO BRONCOS By: Steve Wyche \| NFL Network Published: March 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM The immediate gushing by Denver Broncos players over the acquisition of future Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning , while emotionally expected, should give fans pause. As great as Manning has been, he is not the sole missing piece. He's close, but relying on him as a crutch is about as dangerous as the Philadelphia Eagles thinking all those flashy transactions last August would make them impenetrable. The Broncos won the AFC West and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs last season because they played with the aggression of fear. They knew they were a flawed team -- they did lose eight games -- but hid their blemishes with relentlessness, persistence and backed-into-a-corner heart. The addition of Manning could cause some players to think they've got the crutch, a guy to make up for the weak spots many of them had to compensate for last season. That change in attitude could blow everything up. Manning made it happen in Indianapolis because the team was built around him. He's walking into a roster that is still being sculpted, but with the main pieces already in place for the most part. Manning is also coming back from nerve and neck injuries that look promising now but could look different after a few AFC West dates with Tamba Hali . Manning isn't the type to allow for slippage. Whereas many free agents want to feel their way into a new environment and not threaten existing leadership, he walks into town with enough caché to have players following him from the get-go. His abundance of juice made him the only player who could not only douse Tebowmania, but also likely send it packing after Tim Tebow rallied Denver to the playoffs and created a hysteria through effort, belief and something magical. Manning will hold players accountable and make them take co-ownership. This, after all, will be Manning's last fling at legacy-building and trying to win a Super Bowl. The Broncos' coaching staff already is shredding much of its playbook from last season, adding its baseline agenda but leaving pages blank for Manning to fill in. The personnel staff is beefing up an offense that lost tight end Daniel Fells and wide receiver Eddie Royal , two nice young players. It's also looking at backup quarterbacks, possibly one in free agency and one to draft. Frankly, what would be wrong with Denver adding Vince Young and keeping some of the run-pass concepts in its hip pocket in case he's got to play? Young would learn behind one of the best and also give Denver a backup with a twist. As for the division, Chargers coach Norv Turner said Manning's arrival turned the once one-quarterback AFC West (San Diego's Philip Rivers ) into one that boasts Manning, Oakland's Carson Palmer , Rivers -- and a good Chiefs team. While Denver clearly looks like the March favorite to win the division because of Manning, San Diego quietly has re-stocked in free agency and can't be discounted. The Chiefs won't be a walkover either. Nobody knows about the Raiders, but with Palmer having an offseason to get ready, they could be as dangerous as any team in the AFC West. Turner said that even though Denver will be much more of a passing team with Manning at the helm, it won't change how San Diego or other teams build their defenses. Since most teams are pass-first, possessing as many pass rushers, defensive backs and players that can tackle in the open field remains a premium. "The tie-in is how you get ready to play against them knowing he's there," Turner said. Last season, Broncos' opponents had to game plan for a running team with a running quarterback. This season, Denver will be more orthodox, even though Manning brings his own set of problems for defensive coordinators. Then again, the guy running things just put a bull's-eye on the Broncos. Denver faces a schedule as unforgiving as John Elway has been to Tebowmania. The non-divisional schedule is the NFC South (Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta, Carolina), the AFC North (Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh) plus Houston and New England. Texans linebacker Brian Cushing , who no longer has to face Manning and the Colts twice a season, told me the Texans will be "excited" to play at Denver next season. That's code for: "We beat the Colts with him (rarely) and we'll beat the Broncos with him." Teams will come at Denver much harder than they came at the Broncos and Tebow last season. Opponents didn't seem to ever take Denver as seriously as they needed to until Tebow made something special happen in the waning moments. Now, they'll be ready before kickoff. It's a new era in Denver. Follow Steve Wyche on Twitter @wyche89
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bowener BAMF! Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $9549897	If Manning only has a proabable 2 or 3 good years left, does that mean his first year will be wasted on trying to get the O on the same page as him? That kind of chemistry doesn't happen over night... though I am certain KnowMo will inform us all that Peyton's forehead can actually telepathically teach others in their sleep. I think it is interesting that 2 teams the Broncos play this season are old AFCS rivals of Peyton's. Maybe that will help him or maybe that will hurt him... remains to be seen. __________________ Main Entry: bowe·ner Pronunciation: \ˈbō-nər\ Function: noun Date: circa 2007
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