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Old 02-03-2010, 06:40 PM   #1
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If I was a cop(or other law enforcement) I would shoot 1st and answer questions later in this day and age.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:17 PM   #2
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wow that is just sad
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:18 PM   #3
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wow that is just sad
I know.I wish I hadn't watched it now.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:32 PM   #4
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wow that is just sad
Ugh that was really sad.

I mean hindsight being 20/20 you wish the officer would have done something different or opened fire when the man appeared to be going back in his truck for something. But I mean what can you do? You don't want to go over the line but at the same time you have to protect yourself. It's got to be a tough job.

Just sad to see that. Really, really was.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:24 PM   #5
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And people complain because cops use force at the drop of a hat...
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:20 AM   #6
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:36 PM   #7
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Before I post the video my take is two-fold and split in that I think law enforcement officers are grossly underpaid and yet in this paticular video I was thinking what a dumbass cop,you've given fair warning,why not just shoot and wound this crazy bastard before he does something crazier.
I thought cops were trained to shoot to kill?

The description was enough for me, I haven't watched the video.
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:14 PM   #8
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The question on everyone's mind is, why didn't he shoot him earlier? It's easy for us to ask but being in that moment is an entirely different thing. I imagine it's incredibly hard to to bring yourself to pull the trigger.
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Old 02-17-2010, 05:56 PM   #9
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The question on everyone's mind is, why didn't he shoot him earlier? It's easy for us to ask but being in that moment is an entirely different thing. I imagine it's incredibly hard to to bring yourself to pull the trigger.
This is why your dumbass would get smoked too,
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:30 PM   #10
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I thought cops were trained to shoot to kill?

The description was enough for me, I haven't watched the video.
Here lies the reason why not everyone can be in law enforcement. In my very first interview before I became a Sheriff, I was asked could I take someone else's life. It was obvious to me that the officer, peace be to his family, was not capable of taking anothers life. Strange behavior by people is normal but, as soon as he returned to his vehicle, I thought he was going to get a gun and I would have taken cover and pulled my weapon. (Don't bother with the argument that I wasn't in his shoes because I have been)

The officer took the step of asking the guy to drop the weapon, I would not have taken the time to ask. As an officer, if you see a weapon, the persons intent is implied and you cease to negotiate, period. To answer your question, we are trained to "stop" the agression. We train to 'shoot' center of mass, (the body, more defined as the chest area) if they stop and are still alive fine, if they die, oh well. He had a gun and the implied intent was to cause me harm or death, it would have been a justified shoot.

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Old 02-04-2010, 12:29 AM   #11
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Here lies the reason why not everyone can be in law enforcement. In my very first interview before I became a Sheriff, I was asked could I take someone else's life. It was obvious to me that the officer, peace be to his family, was not capable of taking anothers life. Strange behavior by people is normal but, as soon as he returned to his vehicle, I thought he was going to get a gun and I would have taken cover and pulled my weapon. (Don't bother with the argument that I wasn't in his shoes because I have been)

The officer took the step of asking the guy to drop the weapon, I would not have taken the time to ask. As an officer, if you see a weapon, the persons intent is implied and you cease to negotiate, period. To answer your question, we are trained to "stop" the agression. We train to 'shoot' center of mass, (the body, more defined as the chest area) if they stop and are still alive fine, if they die, oh well. He had a gun and the implied intent was to cause me harm or death, it would have been a justified shoot.
I've been talking to a friend that is in the Marines. I'd heard him say things in the past but never really paid that much attention to them, but the words had to do with shooting a weapon. "Send Death Downrange" is the term.

It has more meaning now than before. I wouldn't want to be in that position, I don't know if I could pull the trigger or not. Props to you for standing in the way of those bullets that might be meant for others.
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:35 AM   #12
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I've been talking to a friend that is in the Marines. I'd heard him say things in the past but never really paid that much attention to them, but the words had to do with shooting a weapon. "Send Death Downrange" is the term.

It has more meaning now than before. I wouldn't want to be in that position, I don't know if I could pull the trigger or not. Props to you for standing in the way of those bullets that might be meant for others.
I'm sorry, I'm not being a jerk or, not trying to be. But, I totally can't make the connection w. your Marine friend, can you pls. elaborate?
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:43 AM   #13
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I'm sorry, I'm not being a jerk or, not trying to be. But, I totally can't make the connection w. your Marine friend, can you pls. elaborate?
Empty it.

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Old 02-04-2010, 05:25 AM   #14
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I'm sorry, I'm not being a jerk or, not trying to be. But, I totally can't make the connection w. your Marine friend, can you pls. elaborate?
If you are carrying a weapon you are supposed to only use it for one reason, to shoot to kill. I don't know of anyone that teaches you to wound anyone you are trying to shoot. "Send death downrange."
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The deadliest weapon in the world is a marine and his rifle. It is your killer instinct which must be harnessed if you expect to survive in combat. Your rifle is only a tool. It is a hard heart that kills. If your killer instincts are not clean and strong you will hesitate at the moment of truth. You will not kill. You will become dead marines and then you will be in a world of shit because marines are not allowed to die without permission. Do you maggots understand?
This is what he means.
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