Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Idk what you guys are seeing but I would be extremely frustrated if we took Donovan Jackson over BPA and put him at LT. He’s a major project. He needs to be where belongs at G.

Abdul Carter killed that guy the entire 2nd half. Was whipping his ass.

Donovan Jackson (LT) in pass pro vs Abdul Carter

Early on, timely throws, Jackson's two-hand punch, and a mean recovery vs a spin move kept Carter at bay

The tide began to shift before halftime, when Carter's freaky first step, bend, and white-hot motor started to take over pic.twitter.com/pSFdiu2iaR

— Taylor Kyles (@tkyles39) February 12, 2025

Alright then you're picky, you gotta beer budget and champagne taste.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Idk what you guys are seeing but I would be extremely frustrated if we took Donovan Jackson over BPA and put him at LT. He’s a major project. He needs to be where belongs at G.

Abdul Carter killed that guy the entire 2nd half. Was whipping his ass.

Donovan Jackson (LT) in pass pro vs Abdul Carter

Early on, timely throws, Jackson's two-hand punch, and a mean recovery vs a spin move kept Carter at bay

The tide began to shift before halftime, when Carter's freaky first step, bend, and white-hot motor started to take over pic.twitter.com/pSFdiu2iaR

— Taylor Kyles (@tkyles39) February 12, 2025

One dominant rep, but sure, he "killed that guy"

That's a good game for any LT going against the best player and pass rusher in the draft, more or less a guy learning the position on the fly.

[RunKC]

At the risk of bringing Crow to this thread breathing fire bc this is his guy….I will be objective and reasonable here.

Conerly was much better vs Carter than Jackson. Not a big fan of Conerly but I think he’s a better LT prospect.

Josh Conerly Jr. in pass pro vs Abdul Carter

None of Carter's double swipes worked, but he did dip under Conerly late on a play both showed their burst off the ball

The ED's only real win came on a double swipe inside where the center made a heads-up play picking up the slack pic.twitter.com/W1jbt9AKlg

— Taylor Kyles (@tkyles39) February 12, 2025

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Cause the team has more holes that it really can't be drafting a guard in the 1st round.

If LT is taken care of in FA and Veach lets Smith walk. I'd argue that RG is the biggest hole we have when considering how important it is to Mahomes and how this team is built under Andy.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think it's RB2, we need to come off this idea that Pacheco is a really good RB. He's also coming off a pretty major injury and going into the last year of his contract.

Secondly a WR 3 is a starter, he's also going to be behind 1 guy who is going to get suspended and coming off injury and another who while I like Worthy his body type says you might wanna manage snaps on him and points.

There are still capable bodies on the roster. Maybe not "ideal."

We don't have a LT. We don't have a DT except Jones. We don't have a MLB. Once those questions are answered, I'd love to dive deep into other areas.

Superficially, do I want a Round 1 WR to play the slot? Nope. I do like some day 2 guys, especially Jalen Royals, Jaylin Noel, and Tai Felton.

Do I really want to spend a day 1 or 2 pick on a RB? Not at all. I'd take any one of Hampton, Johnson, or Henderson if they fell to 63 because I feel they'd be values. I'm content with spending out 4th on a guy though. Some very good RBs will fall into that range.

I think there are areas on the defense that need to be shored up and this is a great class to do that in. There are quite a few CBs that fit what we do. There are alot of really good DTs and DEs in this class where we need a #2 and depth. The LB class is really good. We definitely need a WLB and a better depth player in that area.

I feel like going all offense early in this draft would be a tough one to swallow.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

And they’ve taken more than enough OL over the last few drafts to cover one of the least important positions on the field.

You can't just say "Oh he was drafted as a tackle and that didn't work out SOOOO we will just push him down to guard and he will be elite!!!!!"

And it's not like those OL were drafted very high. Besides Kingsley who are you talking about?

Getting the best OL we can should be the single most important thing to Veach and the Chiefs.

Nothing I have seen gives me confidence that Kingsley, Morris or anyone on our roster can step in as our new starting RG and not have problems.

Did we all forget with how Smith seemed to take a step backwards when Taylor became our RT? With Taylors DEEEEEEP drops it puts more pressure on the RG than usual. Go sign Jackson or Stanley to fix LT and then get a cheap stud guard at #31! Morris and Kingsley can still be developed. Best case would be Kingsley DOES develop and can take over for either Taylor OR Thuney the following year.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Idk what you guys are seeing but I would be extremely frustrated if we took Donovan Jackson over BPA and put him at LT. He’s a major project. He needs to be where belongs at G.

Abdul Carter killed that guy the entire 2nd half. Was whipping his ass.

Donovan Jackson (LT) in pass pro vs Abdul Carter

Early on, timely throws, Jackson's two-hand punch, and a mean recovery vs a spin move kept Carter at bay

The tide began to shift before halftime, when Carter's freaky first step, bend, and white-hot motor started to take over pic.twitter.com/pSFdiu2iaR

— Taylor Kyles (@tkyles39) February 12, 2025

Donovan could be a great replacement for Smith at RG!

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kccrow

There are still capable bodies on the roster. Maybe not "ideal."

We don't have a LT. We don't have a DT except Jones. We don't have a MLB. Once those questions are answered, I'd love to dive deep into other areas.

Superficially, do I want a Round 1 WR to play the slot? Nope. I do like some day 2 guys, especially Jalen Royals, Jaylin Noel, and Tai Felton.

Do I really want to spend a day 1 or 2 pick on a RB? Not at all. I'd take any one of Hampton, Johnson, or Henderson if they fell to 63 because I feel they'd be values. I'm content with spending out 4th on a guy though. Some very good RBs will fall into that range.

I think there are areas on the defense that need to be shored up and this is a great class to do that in. There are quite a few CBs that fit what we do. There are alot of really good DTs and DEs in this class where we need a #2 and depth. The LB class is really good. We definitely need a WLB and a better depth player in that area.

I feel like going all offense early in this draft would be a tough one to swallow.

Lets have this conversation, how much does this team value DT? Also who are these "very good" RBs that are going to fall because once you pass the 3rd round you get into the "1 good skill" guys.

[RunKC]

Here is Ersery vs Carter. Would rather have him over Jackson as well.

Every one-on-one pass rep between Minnesota OT Aireontae Ersery (#69) and Penn State Edge Abdul Carter (#11) pic.twitter.com/2Lz4gNxPpr

— Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) February 11, 2025

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Here is Ersery vs Carter. Would rather have him over Jackson as well.

Every one-on-one pass rep between Minnesota OT Aireontae Ersery (#69) and Penn State Edge Abdul Carter (#11) pic.twitter.com/2Lz4gNxPpr

— Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) February 11, 2025

Politely, but firmly, disagree. Unless Ersey falls to 63 or 66. And even then I’d rather them go another direction.

Simmons and Conerly are the only guys I can consider at T as round 1 guys and feel like it is smart or works.

[htismaqe]

Conerly is probably a guy that can start at either tackle position day 1. He's a high floor guy and I wouldn't mind it if he falls. I'm just not into trading multiple picks, even for a guy like him.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Conerly is probably a guy that can start at either tackle position day 1. He's a high floor guy and I wouldn't mind it if he falls. I'm just not into trading multiple picks, even for a guy like him.

He needs to get stronger. A lot stronger. Dealing with NFL grown man strength is the question for him in Year 1. Don’t think it would take much to get him, if anything, if the draft happened tomorrow. Obviously that can change.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

He needs to get stronger. A lot stronger. Dealing with NFL grown man strength is the question for him in Year 1. Don’t think it would take much to get him, if anything, if the draft happened tomorrow. Obviously that can change.

Yeah - Conerly isn't a day 1 starter, IMO.

He'll get manhandled. He would be okay against speed unless it's one of those speed to power guys.

The Eagles would've absolutely murdered him in the Super Bowl by just doing exactly what they did to Thuney -- fast, speed to power directly into the chest, knock the guy backwards.

Conerly's tape looks good because it's against college players but you can see him struggle against stronger players.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Politely, but firmly, disagree. Unless Ersey falls to 63 or 66. And even then I’d rather them go another direction.

Simmons and Conerly are the only guys I can consider at T as round 1 guys and feel like it is smart or works.

Also agreed.

Ersery is one of those classic cases where we'll spend 3-4 weeks talking ourselves into a guy who just isn't a 1st round prospect by any definition, IMO.

He is a LOT like Kingsley. Lots of talent, good length and athleticism, appears to have the necessary strength. But he's just really raw, IMO. He lacks technique almost as badly as Kingsley did and at this point, a year into his career, I'd be surprised if Kingsley isn't substantially better in 2025 than Ersery would be.

Nope. Not interested. Like you, probably not even interested at the back of 2. Oh sure, he's 'worth' that, but there's gonna be someone I like better.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Lets have this conversation, how much does this team value DT? Also who are these "very good" RBs that are going to fall because once you pass the 3rd round you get into the "1 good skill" guys.

Very little as a complementary player alongside Jones.

But they may value one a fair bit as a guy who can spell Jones. They ran Jones HARD last season. Finding someone that can take some snaps from him and then eventually replace him towards the end of his rookie deal, seems like it wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

If you don't do it this year, you're gonna have to do it next year. And this is just a damn good year for it. So why not grab one now when the board is likely going to fall in your favor?