Chiefs two things hurt us...not going for the FG and the crappy late hit on the QB call - Page 2

Gracie Dean · 09-20-2009, 02:11 PM

cost us the game

WilliamTheIrish · 09-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Two things? No. A hundred things killed us.

1) Haley, Cassel and Savage conspiring together to take 3 points off the board. There are three very simple decisions that needed to be made on that play. Kick the FG or throw it away in the EZ or OB. All three of these idiots share blame.

2) The two picks.

3) No pass rush. AT. ALL.

4) Dropped passes in crucial situations.

No pass rush. AT. ALL.

Just a terrible defensive effort in crunch time. Horrible effort.

**RNR** · 09-20-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yes it is. the slide has to be FEET FIRST

That same penalty will be called everytime. He was on the ground and TWO defenders piled on him. They over protect QBs today

R&GHomer · 09-20-2009, 02:39 PM

The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy.

donkhater · 09-20-2009, 02:42 PM

Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time.

Another TO there would've been useful.

KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent.

LaChapelle · 09-20-2009, 02:42 PM

The facemask call on Savage was a bit suspect.

Red Dawg · 09-20-2009, 02:45 PM

No pash rush is the blame for the loss. The other is Cassel's two picks and the brain fart before the half.

R&GHomer · 09-20-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time.

Another TO there would've been useful.

KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent.

Yep

**Manila-Chief** · 09-20-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy.

Yes, but the rookie needs to learn that he can "touch" players when they are on the ground.

Mecca · 09-20-2009, 02:47 PM

The late hit call it just part of how the league wants games called the refs called it like they're told to.

**Manila-Chief** · 09-20-2009, 02:48 PM

I was on the phone with my daughter (wife on the other end), I had to hang up after the penalty. I was sick!!!

But, look on the other side ... if Oakland had a decent QB we would not have had a chance. The defense held only because of Russel.

Going to be a very long season.

R&GHomer · 09-20-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Yes, but the rookie needs to learn that he can "touch" players when they are on the ground.

True, but as I understand the rules that was a legal hit. I can see how they called it, but they were wrong. Just like if a qb is running in space and doesn't slide feet first he's an open target. The rules are the rules.

All that said, we didn't deserve to win this game. Horrible mistakes, just stupid. I think the 0 pass rush on 3 and 15 was inexcusable.

**RNR** · 09-20-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

True, but as I understand the rules that was a legal hit. I can see how they called it, but they were wrong. Just like if a qb is running in space and doesn't slide feet first he's an open target. The rules are the rules.

All that said, we didn't deserve to win this game. Horrible mistakes, just stupid. I think the 0 pass rush on 3 and 15 was inexcusable.

I do not agree with the way they protect QBs however with this: (Additions
In addition to roughing the passer, defensive players cannot strike the quarterback below the knees or in the head. Officials may call a roughing the passer penalty if they feel the quarterback's safety is in jeopardy.) added to the rule book they will call that everytime.

Demonpenz · 09-20-2009, 03:04 PM

I don't think the league does enough to protect the qb, trent greens slide/hit wasn't even a flag

KCBOSS1 · 09-20-2009, 03:40 PM

The rule is a bad rule, but it wasn't the brightest thing to dive on him like that....all you got to do is touch him. Come on

Jethopper · 09-20-2009, 03:43 PM

How about the costly drop by Flowers of a sure pick 6.........

09-20-2009, 02:11 PM
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WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $2600607	Two things? No. A hundred things killed us. 1) Haley, Cassel and Savage conspiring together to take 3 points off the board. There are three very simple decisions that needed to be made on that play. Kick the FG or throw it away in the EZ or OB. All three of these idiots share blame. 2) The two picks. 3) No pass rush. AT. ALL. 4) Dropped passes in crucial situations. No pass rush. AT. ALL. Just a terrible defensive effort in crunch time. Horrible effort.
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09-20-2009, 02:39 PM	#18
R&GHomer Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10004900	The late personal foul was bullshit. He didn't slide, wasn't touched by a chiefs player. He could have gotten back up and ran with the ball. He was fair game. Bullshit call, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. He fell over his own guy. __________________ Tod Haley: "I just want to coach well, have our team play well and make this city proud of us again."
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donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	Another aspect of that FG before the half is the two waste TO's early in the game. Clearly one of them was Jake O'Connell's fault. the other appeared to be Haley's for not getting the play in on time. Another TO there would've been useful. KC did about everything they had to do to lose playing that well against a shitty opponent. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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Manila-Chief Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis/Miss Casino cash: $10006883	I was on the phone with my daughter (wife on the other end), I had to hang up after the penalty. I was sick!!! But, look on the other side ... if Oakland had a decent QB we would not have had a chance. The defense held only because of Russel. Going to be a very long season.
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Jethopper A Great Pick Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9696008	How about the costly drop by Flowers of a sure pick 6.........
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