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Old 11-14-2021, 10:26 PM  
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Post here if you were an idiot who thought we needed to run the ball more.
Particularly if you believed it needed to be done out of power formations

No, the Chiefs needed to execute the passing game. And they finally did. They fought their way out of it.

And now we are going to skull**** everyone with our goddamn elite QB.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:43 PM   #16
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They weren’t jamming Kelce at the line. That helped.
Chiefs were way more creative about how they used him. Getting him out there as a blocker, lining him up as fullback. That seemed more about Andy making the right adjustment.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:43 PM   #17
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The “Run MOAR” crowd never understood it was, is and always will be the Chiefs patience and execution with the short passing game that will be their path to salvation vs the two deep safety defenses.

It certainly isn’t running right to Wylie’s side.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:44 PM   #18
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He was helping Wylie with chips quite often, which was a good idea.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:52 PM   #19
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i am an idiot.

i was thinking since defenses have been practically inviting the run game and throws to the backs, that it made some sense to try and take advantage of it. the main problem was, i didn't think the defense would be able to hold up their end of deal, and force enough stops or turnovers to make a ball control style game plan a viable option. but, the defense has been playing a lot better the last few weeks, and, as a result, it got me thinking the underneath stuff made more sense than i would have thought otherwise.

i am very happy to have been wrong, especially at the Raiders expense.
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:53 PM   #20
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2nd Drive 11 plays (Tyreek TD):
P.Mahomes pass short left to Da.Williams pushed ob at KC 23 for 5 yards
D.Gore right guard to KC 28 for 5 yards
P.Mahomes pass short right to Da.Williams to LV 39 for 22 yards
Da.Williams left tackle to LV 11 for 1 yard

3rd Drive 8 plays (FG):
P.Mahomes pass short middle to Da.Williams to KC 32 for 7 yards
Da.Williams up the middle to LV 47 for 21 yards
Da.Williams right tackle to LV 33 for 1 yard
P.Mahomes pass short middle to Da.Williams to LV 22 for -1 yards

4th Drive 11 plays (Tyreek TD)
D.Gore right guard to KC 45 for 3 yards
P.Mahomes pass short left to Da.Williams to LV 7 for 3 yards
Da.Williams up the middle to LV 3 for no gain
Da.Williams right tackle to LV 1 for 2 yards

6th Drive 14 plays (Gray TD)
Da.Williams left tackle to KC 24 for 6 yards
Da.Williams right end to KC 36 for -1 yards
P.Mahomes pass short right to Da.Williams pushed ob at LV 32 for 17 yards J.McKinnon up the middle to LV 19 for 5 yards
Da.Williams left tackle to LV 11 for 1 yard
B.Bell up the middle to LV 8 for 3 yards

7th Drive 9 plays (2nd FG)
Da.Williams left end to KC 45 for 2 yards
Da.Williams up the middle to LV 49 for 6 yards
Da.Williams right tackle to LV 20 for -3 yards
P.Mahomes pass short left to Da.Williams to LV 24 for 3 yards

9th Drive 8 plays (Pringle TD):
D.Gore left tackle to KC 29 for 4 yards
D.Gore left guard to KC 41 for 4 yards
D.Gore up the middle to KC 45 for 4 yards
McKinnon up the middle to LV 22 for 3 yards



Balance....
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:56 PM   #21
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I hate to break it to you but we rushed 23 times tonight and some of those short quick hit passes to the WR and the RB are effectively an outside run. Those are the plays we have been neglecting that open up the passing game. Not everything can be a vertical pass. You have to take the underneath stuff including running the ball and screens/swing passes.

Those were lacking over the last few weeks - almost like we forgot we had them.
Mike Leach says that screens and passes to the backs in the flat are just long handoffs.
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You counting garbage time drives?

51 passes 23 runs...balance?
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:57 PM   #23
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One of the strengths of the team is the interior line, so yes, I think they should run more in general. But not necessarily with Williams.
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One of the strengths of the team is the interior line, so yes, I think they should run more in general. But not necessarily with Williams.
How can you say this?

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Old 11-14-2021, 10:58 PM   #25
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You counting garbage time drives?

51 passes 23 runs...balance?
How about only counting the series that resulted in a score eh? Try starting there.
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the passes that worked early were play action

reid did a great psyche job because everyone thought we were gonna run

so those play actions , screens and short passes to the flat worked

then when they blitzed, we torched them
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You counting garbage time drives?

51 passes 23 runs...balance?
That's probably about the right balance for this team, especially since the screens and flats were working today, those are like extended handoffs.
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How about only counting the series that resulted in a score eh? Try starting there.
Wow. No. Just go away.
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