Chiefs Is there a world in which we don't extend Karlaftis? - Page 2

Dante84 · 03-07-2025, 12:05 PM

Looking ahead to '26....

FWIW - I think we probably do keep/extend him. But I think there's at least a discussion to be had. I also think we'll have more clarity after the draft as to Veach's thinking here as well.

The "Keep" reasons:
- He's still a young, homegrown dude at a premium position - tough to let those dude's walk.
- When he's on, he's on.
- Good teammate, fan favorite.
- FAU has not developed well enough to backfill or exceed GK's production.

The "Explore other options" reasons:
- He's great, but not elite - yet. And he might ask for "elite" money.
- McDuffie will need to get paid (hopefully this year, early).
- How much of his production is tied to Chris Jones success?
- What could we get in exchange for him via tag and trade next season?
- What would that cap space allow us to do?

(What prompted this - Obviously the Bengals are stupid for letting Trey Hendrickson out the door. But GK is not TH. Got me thinking.)

BWillie · 03-07-2025, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

So the one thing you know is that Chiefsplanet wants to re-sign Skyy Moore, correct? That's the ONE THING that you know.

He's not really even on the team

RedinTexas · 03-07-2025, 02:18 PM

The cap is going up by $20 million per year lately. Football is more popular than ever, so the rate of increase will probably increase also. Definitely sign Karlaftis. As long as he continues to play well that deal will look really good by the end of the contract.

**wazu** · 03-07-2025, 02:23 PM

Obviously there are limitations, but to me Karlaftis is somebody you try to keep. If he's demanding elite money and can get it somewhere then obviously don't be stupid about it, but he's been great for us and seems like an all-around good human being you don't have to worry about.

Valiant · 03-07-2025, 02:34 PM

Honestly see if Cleveland will flip him for Garrett and a low pick next year.

Karloftis is doing what he is next to an all time great.
He is not consistent enough on sacks to retained at a lot of money.

It does perplex me though that his best game last year was when jones was out.

This team should be looking like the eagles line with the pressure jones gets. The ends are constantly 1v1.

I like him. But not enough to extend him.

So flip him for a.couple years of Garrett if we can.

kccrow · 03-07-2025, 04:02 PM

I feel like we had this discussion a couple of months ago. Yeah, I'd extend him. No question. There aren't even that many DEs of George's quality in the NFL. I think people need to do some actual research on what the rest of the league actually has.

RunKC · 03-07-2025, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I feel like we had this discussion a couple of months ago. Yeah, I'd extend him. No question. There aren't even that many DEs of George's quality in the NFL. I think people need to do some actual research on what the rest of the league actually has.

Karlaftis will be an extremely difficult case depending on what he wants. He’s a really good DE, but he’s not a force multiplier or a guy that is truly elite. He could get even better and make a great case.

It really depends on his asking price. If he wants $30 million APY or more you clearly let him walk, or try to trade him. If he can accept around $24 million APY I think you keep him.

poolboy · 03-07-2025, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Still mad about taking FAU what a waste of a draft pick almost as bad as CEH

He is only 23, give him time

xztop123 · 03-07-2025, 04:32 PM

I really wish felix would take over as a starter. I think that is an under talked about bust thus far.

Coochie liquor · 03-07-2025, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123

I really wish felix would take over as a starter. I think that is an under talked about bust thus far.

One of quite a few….

BlackOp · 03-07-2025, 05:57 PM

Depends on how he progresses...you dont extended/pay "very good" as if they were great.

Chiefs have done a decent job at paying their exceptional players (Mahomes/Jones/Kelce)...you get into trouble when you are financially tethered, long-term, to replaceable talent.

Right now, Karlaftis is in that category...as someone else mentioned, if you are going to pay someone, pay a talent like Myles Garrett. You'll get your money's worth.

Garcia Bronco · 03-07-2025, 06:18 PM

You assume he wants to play for the team that made the worst threepeat attempt ever.

Bump · 03-07-2025, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

You assume he wants to play for the team that made the worst threepeat attempt ever.

it's also the best 3 peat attempt

because it's the only 3 peat attempt in existence.

smithandrew051 · 03-07-2025, 06:47 PM

Extend him, but listen to trade offers for sure.

Rainbarrel · 03-07-2025, 07:40 PM

His name isn't on Sports News enough to satisfy the long standing Chiefs fans. From all the way back to 2020

Urc Burry · 03-07-2025, 07:59 PM

McDuffie can get top of the market tomorrow.

With George, I’m not in as big of hurry. Unless you’re getting a fairly solid deal. Aka 10 mil a year less than Crosby. We still have 2 more years of control. And if he does take that next step than I have no problem handing it over

03-07-2025, 12:05 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1848004 VARSITY	Is there a world in which we don't extend Karlaftis? Looking ahead to '26.... FWIW - I think we probably do keep/extend him. But I think there's at least a discussion to be had. I also think we'll have more clarity after the draft as to Veach's thinking here as well. The "Keep" reasons: - He's still a young, homegrown dude at a premium position - tough to let those dude's walk. - When he's on, he's on. - Good teammate, fan favorite. - FAU has not developed well enough to backfill or exceed GK's production. The "Explore other options" reasons: - He's great, but not elite - yet. And he might ask for "elite" money. - McDuffie will need to get paid (hopefully this year, early). - How much of his production is tied to Chris Jones success? - What could we get in exchange for him via tag and trade next season? - What would that cap space allow us to do? (What prompted this - Obviously the Bengals are stupid for letting Trey Hendrickson out the door. But GK is not TH. Got me thinking.)
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03-07-2025, 02:18 PM	#17
RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $-240000	The cap is going up by $20 million per year lately. Football is more popular than ever, so the rate of increase will probably increase also. Definitely sign Karlaftis. As long as he continues to play well that deal will look really good by the end of the contract.
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03-07-2025, 02:23 PM	#18
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1477705 VARSITY	Obviously there are limitations, but to me Karlaftis is somebody you try to keep. If he's demanding elite money and can get it somewhere then obviously don't be stupid about it, but he's been great for us and seems like an all-around good human being you don't have to worry about.
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03-07-2025, 02:34 PM	#19
Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4572380	Honestly see if Cleveland will flip him for Garrett and a low pick next year. Karloftis is doing what he is next to an all time great. He is not consistent enough on sacks to retained at a lot of money. It does perplex me though that his best game last year was when jones was out. This team should be looking like the eagles line with the pressure jones gets. The ends are constantly 1v1. I like him. But not enough to extend him. So flip him for a.couple years of Garrett if we can.
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03-07-2025, 04:02 PM	#20
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1070000	I feel like we had this discussion a couple of months ago. Yeah, I'd extend him. No question. There aren't even that many DEs of George's quality in the NFL. I think people need to do some actual research on what the rest of the league actually has.
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03-07-2025, 04:32 PM	#23
xztop123 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2013 Casino cash: $1320609	I really wish felix would take over as a starter. I think that is an under talked about bust thus far.
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03-07-2025, 05:57 PM	#25
BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $2795267	Depends on how he progresses...you dont extended/pay "very good" as if they were great. Chiefs have done a decent job at paying their exceptional players (Mahomes/Jones/Kelce)...you get into trouble when you are financially tethered, long-term, to replaceable talent. Right now, Karlaftis is in that category...as someone else mentioned, if you are going to pay someone, pay a talent like Myles Garrett. You'll get your money's worth.
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Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1873136	You assume he wants to play for the team that made the worst threepeat attempt ever.
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03-07-2025, 07:59 PM	#30
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $8621048	McDuffie can get top of the market tomorrow. With George, I’m not in as big of hurry. Unless you’re getting a fairly solid deal. Aka 10 mil a year less than Crosby. We still have 2 more years of control. And if he does take that next step than I have no problem handing it over
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