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Old 06-10-2013, 09:22 AM  
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E3 2013
Time to geek out.
What are you looking forward too?

I'm looking forward to more on the PlayStation 4, a competent Vita lineup, and some NHL 14 news.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:31 PM   #346
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Poor Francis. I could have told him years ago that PS would eventually surpass XBOX.
I'm not sure that getting your ass handed to you in the 7th generation consoles was part of the plan.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:32 PM   #347
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I'm not sure that getting your ass handed to you in the 7th generation consoles was part of the plan.
I'm a PS guy, so no matter what happened I'd still say PS is better than XBOX. The only difference know though, is that everyone else knows it too.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:33 PM   #348
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I've never owned a PS. Don't have anything against them, but was just a user of the Xbox and the 360.

What has Microsoft done to garner any brand loyalty here?

If you were/are a Microsoft supporter, what would you say to convince someone to buy that console?
I'm a multiplayer guy, and mostly shooters. I'm curious to see what games come out for both consoles down the road. I have a 360 and I love it had it for 6 years. Big COD fan, Battlefield 4 looks sick along with the new GTA. TitanFall looks amazing too and it's definitely something I'll be looking into. The ps3 was never an option for me bc of their lack of online shooters. Everyone wants to complain about the price. But if its going to offer you 5+ years of entertainment, I think the extra 100 dollars would without a doubt be worth it. Sucks having to pony it up all at once, but if you're a frequent gamer you're going to get your money's worth. With all the extra money needed for Microsoft points, memberships, etc., I can see why it's a big turn off.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:35 PM   #349
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I wonder, since Sony seems to be charging for online multiplayer now, if that also means you have to have PS+ in order to watch netflix and other streaming services too?
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:36 PM   #350
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The price point seems to be poor market research to me. However, why would you place so many restrictions on game usage and require constant monitoring through the internet?

Surely someone in Redmond had to have enough common sense to say, "Fellas, people are going to be right pissed off about this."

Microsoft's initial plan (I'm sure they'll call an audible at some point) is Earth-shatteringly stupid. It looks to me like they are telling a large portion of their consumers to **** themselves.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:37 PM   #351
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I wonder, since Sony seems to be charging for online multiplayer now, if that also means you have to have PS+ in order to watch netflix and other streaming services too?
From What I read no it's not required
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:39 PM   #352
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From What I read no it's not required
That would be outstanding!!!!
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:39 PM   #353
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The price point seems to be poor market research to me. However, why would you place so many restrictions on game usage and require constant monitoring through the internet?

Surely someone in Redmond had to have enough common sense to say, "Fellas, people are going to be right pissed off about this."

Microsoft's initial plan (I'm sure they'll call an audible at some point) is Earth-shatteringly stupid. It looks to me like they are telling a large portion of their consumers to **** themselves.
Exactly right. I wasn't going to really consider buying any new XBOX, but it really does amaze me how dumb these decisions are. That guy on youtube that plays Francis also does some fairly good reviews and discussions (when he not playing Francis). As you said, it pretty much comes to Microsoft telling people that are poor, don't want to play online, don't have access to fast internet, etc, to **** themselves.
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Microsoft has always been about the $. But since they have over 70 million memberships, maybe they thought they could afford to lose some fans. Definitely not winning any over after their presentation
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:53 PM   #355
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The price point seems to be poor market research to me. However, why would you place so many restrictions on game usage and require constant monitoring through the internet?

Surely someone in Redmond had to have enough common sense to say, "Fellas, people are going to be right pissed off about this."

Microsoft's initial plan (I'm sure they'll call an audible at some point) is Earth-shatteringly stupid. It looks to me like they are telling a large portion of their consumers to **** themselves.
The problem is nobody in Redmond seems to have common sense right now.

Why think about the inconvenience of the consumer when we can just milk them out of more money with our absurd DRM system? This wasn't the publishers doing, as Microsoft brought the idea to them. If it were the other way around, there would certainly be DRM on the PS4.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:19 AM   #356
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Heres the thing for me; if I had a decision, day one, or right after holiday season, which console I would buy, it'd be the PS4. I want to see how the hell this new Used Games and Installation Fee on others systems works out. I will admit that PS has always made games that are greater in tune with me. I love my Final Fantasies, my Uncharted, my God of War etc, and when comparing those franchises plus a few others to Gears of War, Halo, and Fable and some others from XBox, it's just not even a competition. I will say that playing on XBox Live is more fun and a better experience for multiplayer shooters, I get it, but playing on PC trumps the XBox not only because of mouse and keyboard but I'm saving $50 a month, I get the game a smidge cheaper, and I like to build my own computers and update them every few years. If you love XBox 360 then love the brand and have a ball, but personally with all the bad publicity that has fallen upon XBox, their restrictions, their higher price point, neccessity to have Kinect plugged in... how can you say that the PS4 with similar specs is so much worse? Buy what you're going to buy, but Sony knew that they lost last generation because they started out with a piss poor price point, so now to get a leg up with this generation, they're going to be the winners of the initial price point so they can cruise for a longer distance then they did with PS3.
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Microsoft's initial plan (I'm sure they'll call an audible at some point) is Earth-shatteringly stupid.
That's a point that not enough people realize. Microsoft can "adjust" their plans.
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