Chiefs #2 Wide Receiver 2016-17 - Page 3

Couch-Potato · 12-18-2015, 12:37 PM

I still see #2 WR as a big hole. So, who do you guys want as our #2 next year?

Develop from within? I'm not confident that Wilson, nor Conley is our #2 next year.

Draft "The Guy"? I've read there are a lot of options in the draft again this year, but rookie WRs are mostly unreliable.

Vet FA? Several FAs coming up, but not sure who will get away from their current team: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/

Sandy Vagina · 12-18-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

oh, that's right ... the only problem is Alex Smith and Eric Fisher, everything else is super bowl level.

.. are you suggesting there might be an agenda against these two players??? Here at the CP?

how dare you, sir... how. dare. you.

Hoover · 12-18-2015, 10:04 PM

Brett Perriman!

GloucesterChief · 12-18-2015, 10:11 PM

Wait a year and then draft Gabe Marks or River Cracraft. Both fit the Welker\Amendola mold though Marks is a bit more dynamic.

saphojunkie · 12-19-2015, 12:16 PM

There's no reason to think Reid doesn't want a second dynamic WR. See Percy Harvin and Jeremy Maclin.

Conley could be that guy, lord knows he has the straight-line speed to be a deep threat. But the one combine stat that separated him from Julio Jones was his short-shuttle, which my amateur guess would assign to separation in quicker routes. I think that could end up being the albatross around his neck.

The Chiefs should absolutely be targeting another dynamic WR in the draft. Smith's contract is cost-prohibitive for drafting a first round QB this year, but not next year. Get another playmaker so he is ready to blossom when our QBOTF becomes the QBOTP.

Maclin, Kelce, FIRST ROUND WR, Conley, Charles, Ware, West. That's a hell of an arsenal for any QB to play with.

O.city · 12-19-2015, 12:23 PM

Charles as well, if healthy.

I'm just not sure Conley has the short area quickness to be effective in a whole array of route concepts. That's my reasoning for talking to dj about him playing the x. Maybe he surprises me and develops those areas more and really with a competent z accross from him in maclin, you need him to be your deep bug play threat.

Not all wrs are going to be well rounded, just need to be great at a few things when your in his situation

mcaj22 · 12-19-2015, 12:57 PM

Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

O.city · 12-19-2015, 01:04 PM

I would like them to just keep stocking the position though, like the steelers and cardinals have.

Yeah, yeah our qb is our qb is whatever

Direckshun · 12-19-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

Win now veteran team? We're the 8th youngest roster.

keg in kc · 12-19-2015, 01:19 PM

I'm comfortable with Wilson and Conley needs some time to develop.

**Buehler445** · 12-19-2015, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

DEVARD MOTHER****ING DARLING. For the....loss.

mcaj22 · 12-19-2015, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Win now veteran team? We're the 8th youngest roster.

what are Alex Smith, Jamaal Charles, Jeremy Maclin, Ben Grubbs, Dustin Colquitt, Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali, Sean Smith, etc

are these not NFL veterans? Even if the depth of this roster is young some of the highest paid players and biggest contributors are either A) in the prime of their career or B) in their late twenties approaching 30 or over 30.

That to me is a win now veteran team.

The days of 36 year old Ray Lewis leading your defensive unit being considered a veteran team are over. Guys retire much earlier, the twilight of their careers is coming much earlier (except QB).

Hoover · 12-19-2015, 03:49 PM

I'd rather invest in the TE position as crazy as that sounds than chase after #2 WR.

Don't get me wrong, I love Travis Kelce, but he is a little all over the place, and thing a another TE option would work well with Alex.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2015, 03:54 PM

I'll happily take one of Cincinnati's #2 receivers at 2 years 10mil. Their stats will be suppressed by how much the ball gets distributed in their offense.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-19-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I'd rather invest in the TE position as crazy as that sounds than chase after #2 WR.

Don't get me wrong, I love Travis Kelce, but he is a little all over the place, and thing a another TE option would work well with Alex.

We should have went after Vernon Davis when he was available. Low risk, high reward and has chemistry with Smith

milkman · 12-19-2015, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin.

I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team.

Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it.

What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days.

We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.

What more could I want.

I want a guy that wll extend himself on deep balls that are just a little high, a little long.

I want a guy that doesn't leave me questioning his effort.

12-18-2015, 12:37 PM
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $163065	#2 Wide Receiver 2016-17 I still see #2 WR as a big hole. So, who do you guys want as our #2 next year? Develop from within? I'm not confident that Wilson, nor Conley is our #2 next year. Draft "The Guy"? I've read there are a lot of options in the draft again this year, but rookie WRs are mostly unreliable. Vet FA? Several FAs coming up, but not sure who will get away from their current team: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/
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12-18-2015, 10:04 PM	#32
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2141821	Brett Perriman!
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12-18-2015, 10:11 PM	#33
GloucesterChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $-1993546	Wait a year and then draft Gabe Marks or River Cracraft. Both fit the Welker\Amendola mold though Marks is a bit more dynamic.
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12-19-2015, 12:16 PM	#34
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $2176550	There's no reason to think Reid doesn't want a second dynamic WR. See Percy Harvin and Jeremy Maclin. Conley could be that guy, lord knows he has the straight-line speed to be a deep threat. But the one combine stat that separated him from Julio Jones was his short-shuttle, which my amateur guess would assign to separation in quicker routes. I think that could end up being the albatross around his neck. The Chiefs should absolutely be targeting another dynamic WR in the draft. Smith's contract is cost-prohibitive for drafting a first round QB this year, but not next year. Get another playmaker so he is ready to blossom when our QBOTF becomes the QBOTP. Maclin, Kelce, FIRST ROUND WR, Conley, Charles, Ware, West. That's a hell of an arsenal for any QB to play with.
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12-19-2015, 12:23 PM	#35
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	Charles as well, if healthy. I'm just not sure Conley has the short area quickness to be effective in a whole array of route concepts. That's my reasoning for talking to dj about him playing the x. Maybe he surprises me and develops those areas more and really with a competent z accross from him in maclin, you need him to be your deep bug play threat. Not all wrs are going to be well rounded, just need to be great at a few things when your in his situation
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12-19-2015, 12:57 PM	#36
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Albert Wilson is everything you want in a #2 WR. He's like a poor mans Desean Jackson to compliment Maclin. I don't see how or where you get an upgrde. Conley is not better. Nobody worth investing a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be better because they are going to take a whole season to be groomed and this is a win now veteran team. Wilson is fast, he knows the system, salary cap friendly, he's a great YAC guy, and he can beat 1 on 1 man coverage most of the time when Alex Smith identifies it. What more do you people want? He's better than any #2 we had here since the Kennison/Morton days. We had turds like Chris Chambers, Donnie Avery (completely overrated on this forum), Steve Breason (LOL), Jon Baldwin (bigger LOL) playing that position over the years and they were all HORRIBLE.
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12-19-2015, 01:04 PM	#37
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	I would like them to just keep stocking the position though, like the steelers and cardinals have. Yeah, yeah our qb is our qb is whatever
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12-19-2015, 01:19 PM	#39
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I'm comfortable with Wilson and Conley needs some time to develop.
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12-19-2015, 03:49 PM	#42
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2141821	I'd rather invest in the TE position as crazy as that sounds than chase after #2 WR. Don't get me wrong, I love Travis Kelce, but he is a little all over the place, and thing a another TE option would work well with Alex.
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12-19-2015, 03:54 PM	#43
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	I'll happily take one of Cincinnati's #2 receivers at 2 years 10mil. Their stats will be suppressed by how much the ball gets distributed in their offense.
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