Chiefs Drafting Corner - Page 5

Direckshun · 03-20-2012, 12:02 PM

Let's play with this idea for a moment.

Chiefs are on the clock at #11, can't trade down, and Kirkpatrick and/or Janoris Jenkins are still on the board.

If that is the case, how interested might you be in pulling the trigger?

Keep in mind the usual suspects will be at the #11 pick, DeCastro, all the tackles, Kuechly, Poe.

If you bring on a corner, especially a stud like Jenkins, you have the best three corner combo in the NFL, and Arenas in the slot (where he's excelled) if you need him.

If you're REALLY concerned about Manning winning the division over you, this isn't the worst thought in the world.

The Jets showed us that if you have enough talent at CB, then you really can neuter even the best of franchise QBs. Brady is arguably the best QB in the league, and he has to throw away from his WRs when he plays the Jets.

The only problem there is that you have to REALLY stack the CB position like the Jets did. It's too much money to tie up in one position.

Except, Flowers would be the only corner in KC with a fat contract. Routt + Jenkins' rookie contract together would be cheaper than Brandon Carr, bar none. Financially, it's completely doable, and the Chiefs would still have double digits in millions of dollars in cap room.

Manning would have to hit his tight end(s) and check down receivers, because Flowers and Routt are largely neutralizing his #1 and #2, and all Jenkins has to do is shut down the #3. Arenas covers the slot. And we've all seen how mortal Manning looks when he's frustrated.

Plus, this gives us insurance for an elite CB duo if Routt doesn't pan out.

It's a thought.

Discuss.

Direckshun · 03-20-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks

Berry played FS his first two years in college and racked up 12 interceptions.

And Albert played guard.

Put your best talent in the best places for them.

Berry is a line of scrimmage seek-and-destroy machine, with spot coverage on tight ends.

He can play free, but why waste that talent?

Rasputin · 03-20-2012, 10:43 PM

I want BPA and not care as much for need in the first round. If we can upgrade a position then we can make a trade with one of the vets that is holding us back.

**RealSNR** · 03-20-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8

CB Casey Hayward from Vanderbilt looked good in the Senior Bowl practices and game. Good or bad, he has a lot of the qualities that Pioli looks for in the draft. Good SEC player, team captain, Senior Bowl standout, good vertical and broad jump, etc..

He's projected to be a 3rd round pick.

Jalil Brown seems to have Chiefs fans really liking him or hating him. He has a lot of good physical attributes but when I've watched him in practice and games, he seems to get beat a lot or does a lot of holding and grabbing the receiver to keep from getting beat.

I hope Jalil doesn't end up being another Donald Washington.

Funny you should mention Donald Washington. It's kind of funny how the Chiefs are fans of taking the unknown guy from a pair of corners on a college team later in the draft.

Donald Washington teamed up with Malcom Jenkings at Ohio State, and Jalil Brown played across from Jimmy Smith at Colorado.

BOOKMARK THIS POST, GUYS: The Chiefs will take DeQuan Menzie in the 4th round of the 2012 NFL Draft. You heard it here first. I am saving this post and will shove it in all ya'll's faces when this comes true.

Direckshun · 03-20-2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Funny you should mention Donald Washington. It's kind of funny how the Chiefs are fans of taking the unknown guy from a pair of senior corners on a college team later in the draft.

Donald Washington teamed up with Malcom Jenkings at Ohio State, and Jalil Brown played across from Jimmy Smith at Colorado.

BOOKMARK THIS POST, GUYS: The Chiefs will take DeQuan Menzie in the 4th round of the 2012 NFL Draft. You heard it here first. I am saving this post and will shove it in all ya'll's faces when this comes true.

Heh.

KC Hawks · 03-20-2012, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

And Albert played guard.

Put your best talent in the best places for them.

Berry is a line of scrimmage seek-and-destroy machine, with spot coverage on tight ends.

He can play free, but why waste that talent?

There's no doubt he can be a great SS ala Polamalu. But coming out of college I thought he was an Ed Reed clone. And IMO, Reed > Polamalu.

NJChiefsFan · 03-20-2012, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks

There's no doubt he can be a great SS ala Polamalu. But coming out of college I thought he was an Ed Reed clone. And IMO, Reed > Polamalu.

I think he is a little bit of both.

KC Hawks · 03-20-2012, 10:58 PM

Obviously, we don't need to draft a starting safety, and I like Lewis. But like I said, drafting Barron is intriguing.

**BossChief** · 03-20-2012, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

And Albert played guard.

Put your best talent in the best places for them.

Berry is a line of scrimmage seek-and-destroy machine, with spot coverage on tight ends.

He can play free, but why waste that talent?

Less contact at free safety for a rehabbing player wouldn't be all bad.

Rasputin · 03-21-2012, 12:39 AM

I woulnd't complain if we got a top notch CB in the first round.

Titty Meat · 03-21-2012, 01:36 AM

Drafting a CB round 1 would be stupid.

It's either

Tannehill

Pass Rusher

Fritz88 · 03-21-2012, 02:23 AM

Doesn't matter. Romeo will figure out a way to own PM.

I want pass rushers.
Posted via Mobile Device

Rasputin · 03-21-2012, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88

Doesn't matter. Romeo will figure out a way to own PM.

I want pass rushers.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yep we need pass rush. We need compitition to light a fire under T Jax too. I don't have much expectations for him to go to the next level of play. I think he has peaked in his development stage.

Wilson8 · 03-21-2012, 05:25 AM

In an 810 radio interview the other day, they asked Randy Cross about the Chiefs and Brandon Carr. He said that no doubt Carr was a better CB than Routt but it comes down to where best to spend the money. He said the Chiefs would be better served by spending the money they saved on Carr on a pass rush. He said a good pass rush will make the CBs play that much better.

03-20-2012, 12:02 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Drafting Corner Let's play with this idea for a moment. Chiefs are on the clock at #11, can't trade down, and Kirkpatrick and/or Janoris Jenkins are still on the board. If that is the case, how interested might you be in pulling the trigger? Keep in mind the usual suspects will be at the #11 pick, DeCastro, all the tackles, Kuechly, Poe. If you bring on a corner, especially a stud like Jenkins, you have the best three corner combo in the NFL, and Arenas in the slot (where he's excelled) if you need him. If you're REALLY concerned about Manning winning the division over you, this isn't the worst thought in the world. The Jets showed us that if you have enough talent at CB, then you really can neuter even the best of franchise QBs. Brady is arguably the best QB in the league, and he has to throw away from his WRs when he plays the Jets. The only problem there is that you have to REALLY stack the CB position like the Jets did. It's too much money to tie up in one position. Except, Flowers would be the only corner in KC with a fat contract. Routt + Jenkins' rookie contract together would be cheaper than Brandon Carr, bar none. Financially, it's completely doable, and the Chiefs would still have double digits in millions of dollars in cap room. Manning would have to hit his tight end(s) and check down receivers, because Flowers and Routt are largely neutralizing his #1 and #2, and all Jenkins has to do is shut down the #3. Arenas covers the slot. And we've all seen how mortal Manning looks when he's frustrated. Plus, this gives us insurance for an elite CB duo if Routt doesn't pan out. It's a thought. Discuss.
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03-20-2012, 10:58 PM	#67
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03-21-2012, 05:25 AM	#73
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2837557	In an 810 radio interview the other day, they asked Randy Cross about the Chiefs and Brandon Carr. He said that no doubt Carr was a better CB than Routt but it comes down to where best to spend the money. He said the Chiefs would be better served by spending the money they saved on Carr on a pass rush. He said a good pass rush will make the CBs play that much better.
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