#2 Wide Receiver 2016-17

[Couch-Potato]

I still see #2 WR as a big hole. So, who do you guys want as our #2 next year?


Develop from within? I'm not confident that Wilson, nor Conley is our #2 next year.

Draft "The Guy"? I've read there are a lot of options in the draft again this year, but rookie WRs are mostly unreliable.

Vet FA? Several FAs coming up, but not sure who will get away from their current team: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/

[ThaVirus]

Can you really question a 5'9" WR's effort?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Can you really question a 5'9" WR's effort?

Why not?

[-King-]

I don't know if its effort. I see a lot of effort from him when he's run blocking or blocking on screens.
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[Ragged Robin]

Conley has some serious #1 receiver type of talent. If he can somehow figure it out eventually, very good things will happen.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Where do you think Wilson has failed in his role?

In this offense, the #2 target is Travis Kelce.

Well, our no 2 WR has only averaged 3 catches a game the last 3 weeks.

Not great...

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Well, our no 2 WR has only averaged 3 catches a game the last 3 weeks.

Not great...

to be fair to him though... 8 receptions on 12 targets.

[Couch-Potato]

So most seem to agree that Wilson is our #2, and Conley has a chance to get there if he develops. I like the idea that a second TE could be more impactful than another WR. One vote for Rashard Matthew and another for TRAVIS Benjamin.

Well, I think I'm for bringing in one of the above vets, developing our young guys, AND drafting a TE. A bit surprised others don't see this WR corp as lacking the way I do.


Thoughts:

...How about James O'Shaughnessey? I thought he was going to be our second TE?

...I'm sure plenty of teams are saying so now, but had we grabbed Lockett.

...which brings me to what happened to DAT? Why isn't he more active in the passing, and kick/punt return?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Well, our no 2 WR has only averaged 3 catches a game the last 3 weeks.

Not great...

But again, he's not our #2 target; Kelce is.

If you figure that you want Maclin getting 10 targets a game and Kelce another 8 then your backs get 6ish you're at 24. In a typical game we'll probably throw the ball 30 times or so. So you're looking at 6 targets for Wilson, the #3 WR and the #2 TE combined.

The #2 WR in this offense just isn't a terribly critical position. I see Milkman's point regarding effort - yeah, Wilson has failed to lay out a time or two this season - but using raw numbers just doesn't make a lot of sense for the X in this system.

Wilson is averaging 3.3 targets/gm and I don't think it's because he's failing to get open. We saw last season that he was getting about 6 targets/gm down the stretch when he was our de facto #1 option and he was making things happen with those targets. His lack of numbers is a function of the system and not Wilson himself.

As to the effort, I just think he needs to have a better understanding of what he can and cannot do. Or perhaps we need that understanding and he already has it. The long catch he made 2 weeks ago when he went up into traffic and brought the ball in knowing he was going to get hit makes me think that he's not exactly a scared player. Moreover, he's an UDFA that made himself into a starting WR - guys that jake plays don't manage that.

I just think we have far more pressing concerns than Albert Wilson.

[RunKC]

Watching the Steelers yesterday, I would love to model our WR corps after them.

I want another speed receiver this offseason, and I'd really like to get one in the first 2 rounds if no QB is available.

I want our WR's to all be dynamic, athletic and dangerous.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

Conley has some serious #1 receiver type of talent. If he can somehow figure it out eventually, very good things will happen.

dude gtfoh

based off of what exactly???

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But again, he's not our #2 target; Kelce is.

If you figure that you want Maclin getting 10 targets a game and Kelce another 8 then your backs get 6ish you're at 24. In a typical game we'll probably throw the ball 30 times or so. So you're looking at 6 targets for Wilson, the #3 WR and the #2 TE combined.

The #2 WR in this offense just isn't a terribly critical position. I see Milkman's point regarding effort - yeah, Wilson has failed to lay out a time or two this season - but using raw numbers just doesn't make a lot of sense for the X in this system.

Wilson is averaging 3.3 targets/gm and I don't think it's because he's failing to get open. We saw last season that he was getting about 6 targets/gm down the stretch when he was our de facto #1 option and he was making things happen with those targets. His lack of numbers is a function of the system and not Wilson himself.

As to the effort, I just think he needs to have a better understanding of what he can and cannot do. Or perhaps we need that understanding and he already has it. The long catch he made 2 weeks ago when he went up into traffic and brought the ball in knowing he was going to get hit makes me think that he's not exactly a scared player. Moreover, he's an UDFA that made himself into a starting WR - guys that jake plays don't manage that.

I just think we have far more pressing concerns than Albert Wilson.

As much as people get maligned for saying it, we really need to get the offensive line beefed up. As much grief as Alex smith gets here, when he's comfortable in the pocket, he plays well.

I think RT and LG are pretty big holes at this point

[CoMoChief]

OL def needs to be a point of emphasis in next offseason.

Can't continue giving up the most sacks in the NFL.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

As much as people get maligned for saying it, we really need to get the offensive line beefed up. As much grief as Alex smith gets here, when he's comfortable in the pocket, he plays well.

I think RT and LG are pretty big holes at this point

And more CB depth. And the depth of our DL is what allows us to rotate guys in and keep them fresh the whole game (allowing us to play excellent run defense even in a Nickel set). If we lose Howard and/or DeVito, we'll need to invest there. Oh, and DJ isn't getting younger.

There are a lot of areas on this team that need to get tightened up well before we get to the #2 corner. I'd be just fine taking a T in the first and then another interior lineman in the 2nd or 3rd (though I'd rather see a CB there).

Guys are describing who they want their #2 wideout to be and yet Wilson possesses most of those tools; he's just not a volume option. He'd go for 800 yards and 6 TDs in Pittsburgh if he were running as their #3. They're a volume offense and we're not. Big Ben's going to be a first ballot HoFer; there's a reason his WRs tend to put up numbers...

[Sandy Vagina]

The more I think about it, maybe some effort issues with Albert were more about him still recovering from that shoulder injury.. and not wanting to take big hits. (at least for the running out of bounds part)

The deep down field issues, I still suspect he just doesn't have ideal ball tracking +/or body adjustments while deep.

[Sandy Vagina]

I think CB would be a need, whether Sean is in or out the door, as many expect.

Peters is the real deal, but Gaines is coming back from injury. Nelson hasn't shown much yet. If Sean is gone, I would smile over them drafting a CB on day 2.