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Old 01-22-2023, 06:26 PM   #1
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Yeah that kick had no chance.
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:27 PM   #2
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And Dallas will just keep trotting him out there. Hotshot QB with weapons on offense, 2 point conversions are there for the taking, but no. Just miss another extra point.
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:27 PM   #3
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And Dallas will just keep trotting him out there. Hotshot QB with weapons on offense, 2 point conversions are there for the taking, but no. Just miss another extra point.
they need to give up on the kicker for xp
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:29 PM   #4
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The crazy thing to me is, the math favors going for the 2 point conversion every time, regardless of anything else. Chip Kelly understood this well.

So if the math slightly favors going for it with all else equal, it should be a no-brainer to go for it when your kicker turns into Steve Sax. But they won't do it.

This same logic applies to the Chiefs with Butker imo. KC should go for it all the time.
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:33 PM   #5
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The crazy thing to me is, the math favors going for the 2 point conversion every time, regardless of anything else. Chip Kelly understood this well.

So if the math slightly favors going for it with all else equal, it should be a no-brainer to go for it when your kicker turns into Steve Sax. But they won't do it.

This same logic applies to the Chiefs with Butker imo. KC should go for it all the time.
chip kelly didn't last what, three seasons?
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:34 PM   #6
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chip kelly didn't last what, three seasons?
should have stayed at ORE
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:38 PM   #7
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should have stayed at ORE
Definitely. he was not a good NFL coach.
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:40 PM   #8
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Definitely. he was not a good NFL coach.
He was the talk of the league for a while. After his NFL stint, he went back to college, and now he has UCLA in the top 10 every year instead of the Ducks.
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:39 PM   #9
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The crazy thing to me is, the math favors going for the 2 point conversion every time, regardless of anything else. Chip Kelly understood this well.

So if the math slightly favors going for it with all else equal, it should be a no-brainer to go for it when your kicker turns into Steve Sax. But they won't do it.

This same logic applies to the Chiefs with Butker imo. KC should go for it all the time.
That's the whole problem... if you're scoring 3 or 4 touchdowns in a game and going for 2 every time only works out slightly in favor, you're still taking the risk that you're on the wrong side of that every single game, mutually exclusive of the times it works out.

Make the 2
Miss it
Make it
...yay, you have a whole extra point.

Miss the 2
Make it
Miss it
...well, -1 this game.

...and you don't know if you'll get that extra chance to make up for a miss.

Points are too valuable in any given game to simply say across 100 chances, you'll come out on top +5 points.

And idiots like Staley have ****ed it up plenty of times, overthinking it and going for (and missing) early, and then kicking EPs late when they should actually going for 2, etc.
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:44 PM   #10
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That's the whole problem... if you're scoring 3 or 4 touchdowns in a game and going for 2 every time only works out slightly in favor, you're still taking the risk that you're on the wrong side of that every single game, mutually exclusive of the times it works out.

Make the 2
Miss it
Make it
...yay, you have a whole extra point.

Miss the 2
Make it
Miss it
...well, -1 this game.

...and you don't know if you'll get that extra chance to make up for a miss.

Points are too valuable in any given game to simply say across 100 chances, you'll come out on top +5 points.

And idiots like Staley have ****ed it up plenty of times, overthinking it and going for (and missing) early, and then kicking EPs late when they should actually going for 2, etc.
Yeah especially in this game where it's low scoring and this may very well be the two best defenses in the league. You may not get many shots to even score a TD.
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That's the whole problem... if you're scoring 3 or 4 touchdowns in a game and going for 2 every time only works out slightly in favor, you're still taking the risk that you're on the wrong side of that every single game, mutually exclusive of the times it works out.

Make the 2
Miss it
Make it
...yay, you have a whole extra point.

Miss the 2
Make it
Miss it
...well, -1 this game.

...and you don't know if you'll get that extra chance to make up for a miss.

Points are too valuable in any given game to simply say across 100 chances, you'll come out on top +5 points.

And idiots like Staley have ****ed it up plenty of times, overthinking it and going for (and missing) early, and then kicking EPs late when they should actually going for 2, etc.
I was never in love with the ultra-aggressive Chip Kelly strategy of literally going for 2 every time, but I'll tell ya what, it sucked to play against that team. And I mean that both as a Chief fan when he was the Eagles coach and as a Duck hater when he was in Eugene.
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Old 01-22-2023, 06:29 PM   #12
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The Cowboys are forcing Purdy into dink and dunk which will eventually pay off with him making mistakes.
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The Cowboys are forcing Purdy into dink and dunk which will eventually pay off with him making mistakes.
Thing is, that offense is literally dink and dunk passing strategy with a healthy dose of rushing. right now, they've run the ball just 7 times. They're backwards right now.
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