Chiefs Should we have played Henne the entire 2nd half? - Page 6

htismaqe · 01-23-2023, 08:40 AM

I keep seeing on social media that Chiefs fans are pissed at Mahomes and Reid and insist that Henne should have played the rest of the game.

I have to ask the Planet their opinion because I don't get it. It's the playoffs, it's win or go home. I don't see us winning that game with Henne because that last TD to MVS was pure Mahomes, Henne doesn't make that throw. Nor does he make a couple of the throws leading up to it.

**wazu** · 01-23-2023, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia

Henne got away with a near pick as well.

Yeah we almost had pure disaster right out of the gate. Instead it ended up being longest TD drive in Chiefs playoff history and Henne getting showered with love. It's a fickle game, sometimes.

stanleychief · 01-23-2023, 11:04 AM

I had a few beers by the time the Mahomes injury happened, and for some reason, I thought he injured his knee. I was bewildered when he went limping around, and then ended up back in the huddle. Once it sunk in that it was his ankle, I understood that it wasn't as bad.

We desperately need Mahomes for the AFCCG. I had mixed feelings about him playing the rest of the game. The Jags were coming after us pretty hard and I was worried about Mahomes getting hurt worse. I am glad that taping his ankle let him finish out the game. If his warrior mentality wasn't evident to the rest of the world, it certainly is now. Everything worked out great, so playing him was the right decision.

However...Henne led an impressive drive when Mahomes went out. I'm not set on the fact that Henne also couldn't have gone on to win that game. The Jags prepped for playing Mahomes, not Henne, and I think that first drive caught them off guard a bit. We were also running the ball very well with Pacheco. If EB and Reid protected Henne with smart play calling, who knows? It appeared that the rest of the team realized they needed to level up their game when Patrick was out.

**Rain Man** · 01-23-2023, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Yeah we almost had pure disaster right out of the gate. Instead it ended up being longest TD drive in Chiefs playoff history and Henne getting showered with love. It's a fickle game, sometimes.

Yeah, weird how that works.

But I view Henne as a hero today.

That said, as long as Patrick Mahomes II isn't at increased risk of further injury, you play Mahomes. He's still got the arm and the quick reads.

It stinks that he's losing mobility right now, though. That's a major weapon for him. And it's a bit worrisome that some of his throws were off due to not being able to plant his foot properly. The Bengals are getting really lucky to not face 100 percent of Mahomes, though of course we'll still win.

Stewie · 01-23-2023, 11:33 AM

Not only no, but hell no.

If Patrick wants to play and the docs say it's OK, Henne sits. Besides, Henne's drive is nothing w/o Pacheco's run.

I hope his ankle is getting hourly attention. Isn't his wife a physical therapist or something? That's 24/7 medical care.

**Dartgod** · 01-23-2023, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

He has been a QB for 25 years? Oh rly? Why have I never heard of you, random dude?

I think I know who he is.

htismaqe · 01-23-2023, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yeah, weird how that works.

But I view Henne as a hero today.

That said, as long as Patrick Mahomes II isn't at increased risk of further injury, you play Mahomes. He's still got the arm and the quick reads.

It stinks that he's losing mobility right now, though. That's a major weapon for him. And it's a bit worrisome that some of his throws were off due to not being able to plant his foot properly. The Bengals are getting really lucky to not face 100 percent of Mahomes, though of course we'll still win.

Don't get me wrong, Henne did GREAT. I even told my Dad yesterday he should get a game ball.

That being said, it was one drive. A very small sample size. We've seen him in extended duty, even in the playoffs. We almost lost to the Browns.

**cdcox** · 01-23-2023, 12:08 PM

There was more than one person in the game thread calling for Henne after the first drive of the second half.

Direckshun · 01-23-2023, 12:11 PM

Honestly, I would have played Henne and told Mahomes to sit down.

Playing Mahomes in that moment made it more likely we win the game, but less likely we win the AFCCG or Super Bowl if he aggravates it, which he absolutely does every time we had one of those stretch runs.

Meanwhile, Henne conducted a 98 yard drive, alright? Andy Reid called the Alex Smith offense for five years, he can hold the fort with Henne against an inferior Jaguars team for a half of football.

I think in normal circumstances, Reid would have done exactly that. Preserve your Ferrari for the race that matters.

I literally think Mahomes bullied the living crap out of everyone on the sideline and got himself back into the game.

I literally think it's that simple.

Archie Bunker · 01-23-2023, 12:13 PM

I will admit there was a couple of times during the game where I questioned the decision. When you see your franchise unable to drop back, escape, or push off on throws it caused me to have a heightened sense of concern. It was sad to watch him in that condition, for lack of a better way to put it.

Overreaction on my part.

htismaqe · 01-23-2023, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Honestly, I would have played Henne and told Mahomes to sit down.

Playing Mahomes in that moment made it more likely we win the game, but less likely we win the AFCCG or Super Bowl if he aggravates it, which he absolutely does every time we had one of those stretch runs.

Meanwhile, Henne conducted a 98 yard drive, alright? Andy Reid called the Alex Smith offense for five years, he can hold the fort with Henne against an inferior Jaguars team for a half of football.

I think in normal circumstances, Reid would have done exactly that. Preserve your Ferrari for the race that matters.

I literally think Mahomes bullied the living crap out of everyone on the sideline and got himself back into the game.

I literally think it's that simple.

So you really think we should have saved Mahomes for a championship game we wouldn't even be playing in if it weren't for him?

htismaqe · 01-23-2023, 01:54 PM

And no, Mahomes didn't bully anybody to get back on the field. He tried, as evidenced by his mad fit on the sideline.

But the trainers and Andy told him he wasn't going back in the game until they ruled out the possibility of further injury.

When they did the MRI and determine that wasn't the case, there was no reason at all to play Henne.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-23-2023, 02:16 PM

Yeah, that isn't going to fly. Once they told Pat it wasn't serious, you aren't keeping that guy off the field. Period. He's QB1, the face of the franchise, and the most competitive guy on the field.

HC_Chief · 01-23-2023, 02:18 PM

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I keep seeing on social media...

There's the answer. Obvious no.
Social media is cancer.

**Bowser** · 01-23-2023, 02:31 PM

Seen on social media -

Can we activate Steve Buechele during the game?

Direckshun · 01-23-2023, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

So you really think we should have saved Mahomes for a championship game we wouldn't even be playing in if it weren't for him?

I would have. I think Henne keeps the ship upright the rest of the way.

Once he had the 98-yard drive, I figured Reid had a deep enough call sheet to get them where they needed to go.

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01-23-2023, 08:40 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	Should we have played Henne the entire 2nd half? I keep seeing on social media that Chiefs fans are pissed at Mahomes and Reid and insist that Henne should have played the rest of the game. I have to ask the Planet their opinion because I don't get it. It's the playoffs, it's win or go home. I don't see us winning that game with Henne because that last TD to MVS was pure Mahomes, Henne doesn't make that throw. Nor does he make a couple of the throws leading up to it.
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01-23-2023, 11:04 AM	#77
stanleychief Veteran Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $3876254	I had a few beers by the time the Mahomes injury happened, and for some reason, I thought he injured his knee. I was bewildered when he went limping around, and then ended up back in the huddle. Once it sunk in that it was his ankle, I understood that it wasn't as bad. We desperately need Mahomes for the AFCCG. I had mixed feelings about him playing the rest of the game. The Jags were coming after us pretty hard and I was worried about Mahomes getting hurt worse. I am glad that taping his ankle let him finish out the game. If his warrior mentality wasn't evident to the rest of the world, it certainly is now. Everything worked out great, so playing him was the right decision. However...Henne led an impressive drive when Mahomes went out. I'm not set on the fact that Henne also couldn't have gone on to win that game. The Jags prepped for playing Mahomes, not Henne, and I think that first drive caught them off guard a bit. We were also running the ball very well with Pacheco. If EB and Reid protected Henne with smart play calling, who knows? It appeared that the rest of the team realized they needed to level up their game when Patrick was out.
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01-23-2023, 11:33 AM	#79
Stewie MVP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West of the Equator Casino cash: $-1610099	Not only no, but hell no. If Patrick wants to play and the docs say it's OK, Henne sits. Besides, Henne's drive is nothing w/o Pacheco's run. I hope his ankle is getting hourly attention. Isn't his wife a physical therapist or something? That's 24/7 medical care.
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01-23-2023, 12:08 PM	#82
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-478231	There was more than one person in the game thread calling for Henne after the first drive of the second half.
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01-23-2023, 12:11 PM	#83
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2103447	Honestly, I would have played Henne and told Mahomes to sit down. Playing Mahomes in that moment made it more likely we win the game, but less likely we win the AFCCG or Super Bowl if he aggravates it, which he absolutely does every time we had one of those stretch runs. Meanwhile, Henne conducted a 98 yard drive, alright? Andy Reid called the Alex Smith offense for five years, he can hold the fort with Henne against an inferior Jaguars team for a half of football. I think in normal circumstances, Reid would have done exactly that. Preserve your Ferrari for the race that matters. I literally think Mahomes bullied the living crap out of everyone on the sideline and got himself back into the game. I literally think it's that simple.
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01-23-2023, 12:13 PM	#84
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	I will admit there was a couple of times during the game where I questioned the decision. When you see your franchise unable to drop back, escape, or push off on throws it caused me to have a heightened sense of concern. It was sad to watch him in that condition, for lack of a better way to put it. Overreaction on my part.
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01-23-2023, 01:54 PM	#86
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	And no, Mahomes didn't bully anybody to get back on the field. He tried, as evidenced by his mad fit on the sideline. But the trainers and Andy told him he wasn't going back in the game until they ruled out the possibility of further injury. When they did the MRI and determine that wasn't the case, there was no reason at all to play Henne.
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01-23-2023, 02:16 PM	#87
Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $40194	Yeah, that isn't going to fly. Once they told Pat it wasn't serious, you aren't keeping that guy off the field. Period. He's QB1, the face of the franchise, and the most competitive guy on the field. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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