Football 91-0 Texas HS football blowout leads to bullying charge from a concerned parent - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 10-22-2013, 08:47 PM

Bullying or no?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highsc...101510025.html

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Aledo's 91-0 victory was so dominant an opposing parent filed a bullying charge — BearcatBoosters.org
Each week there are football blowouts across the nation. Rarely are they more one-sided than the 91-0 rout Aledo High (Aledo, Tex.) put on Western Hills High (Fort Worth, Tex.). Now, one parent has apparently been so concerned by the final scoreline that they took the extraordinary step of filing an official bullying report with the school district because of the thrashing.
As reported by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and other Dallas-area outlets, the official bullying report was filed by a Western Hills parent on Saturday, hours after the final whistle ended the most one-sided game so far this year in the Lone Star state. Texas regulations require Aledo's principal to launch a full investigation into the bullying allegation.

The administration is then to produce a written report addressing the bullying complaint.

If it was surprising that Aledo racked up 91 points on Friday, it was no shock that their win was a dominant one. The Bearcats are among the state's most powerful squads year-in, year-out. Friday's victory improved the team's record to 7-0, with Aledo now averaging a whopping 69 points per game. They've outscored their district foes by an incredible 77 points-per-game.

In the immediate aftermath of the most recent rout, both coaches agreed that there was no intention of the near 100-point gap in the scoreline. The two coaches spoke to the Star-Telegram about the blowout, and in a unique twist both expressed a sincere sense of regret about the way the game played out. In particular, Aledo coach Tim Buchanan spoke to multiple outlets asserting that his team's frequent blowouts have become a source of embarrassment for the program.

"I think the game was handled fine," [Western Hills coach John] Naylor said. "They're No. 1 for a reason, and I know coach Buchanan. We're fighting a real uphill battle right now.
"We just ran into a buzzsaw, you know," Naylor said. "[Aledo] just plays hard. And they’re good sports, and they don’t talk at all. They get after it, and that’s the way football is supposed to be played in Texas."
"I'm upset about [the bullying report]," controversial Aledo coach Tim Buchanan told the Star-Telegram. "I don't like it. I sit there the whole third and fourth quarter and try to think how I can keep us from scoring.

"I looked around [after Friday's victory] and asked, 'Is there anyone here that feels good?'"

BlackHelicopters · 10-23-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Once you go up by a significant margin, you should put your 2nd and 3rd stringers in...If it keeps going, switch to the run and grind game. But if even that doesn't stop the scoring, I think reasonable effort has been made.

The story I read said this was done after 21 minutes of play.

vailpass · 10-23-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka

Isn't this what the coach did?

Yes. And asked for a running clock. Those non-starters deserve to be able to play too.

cosmo20002 · 10-23-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0

The impact of Obama is now reaching high school sports.

We are raising a nation of entitled pussies.

Also, apparently nation that over-reacts to one person doing something dumb and whines about it being the whole nation.

Eureka · 10-23-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Yes. And asked for a running clock. Those non-starters deserve to be able to play too.

I truly believe the parent complaint has done more damage to the losing kids psyche than losing the game even by 100+. It is now a national story and the parent is to blame.

My 13 yr old nephew plays in a youth football league and last year his team DOMINATED every team! They won the championship easily. On the other hand he goes to a very small school and his basketball team usually is beat up on against bigger schools. The constant I notice is the kids are competing, learning, and having fun! Either outcome does not effect the kids long term in my opinion. Once in awhile adults could learn from kids.

vailpass · 10-23-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka

I truly believe the parent complaint has done more damage to the losing kids psyche than losing the game even by 100+. It is now a national story and the parent is to blame.

My 13 yr old nephew plays in a youth football league and last year his team DOMINATED every team! They won the championship easily. On the other hand he goes to a very small school and his basketball team usually is beat up on against bigger schools. The constant I notice is the kids are competing, learning, and having fun! Either outcome does not effect the kids long term in my opinion. Once in awhile adults could learn from kids.

Yep.

Sully · 10-24-2013, 08:06 AM

The one thing I thought was pretty rough about Texas football was that there was no running clock in blowouts. Went to a few games when I lived down there that turned ugly, and that second half just drags on and on.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm coaching a terrible team this year (and doing a terrible job, at that), but we're also playing some pretty damn good teams. If it wasn't for that running clock, we would have had half our players quit, because frankly even with it, we've been brutally embarrassed several times. We are playing tomorrow night, and I'd bet any amount of money that we will lose by 40+ (If I were the Pete Rose of HS football).

Other than that, I agree that this parent has done more harm than good. I understand his feelings behind the action, but he didn't give much forethought to how this would paint his kid/kid's teammates by making this move. Even the losing coach knew it just was gonna happen.

**loochy** · 10-24-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Also, apparently nation that over-reacts to one person doing something dumb and whines about it being the whole nation.

this.

i haven't run across a single person or opinion supporting the whiner

**loochy** · 10-24-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Once you go up by a significant margin, you should put your 2nd and 3rd stringers in...If it keeps going, switch to the run and grind game. But if even that doesn't stop the scoring, I think reasonable effort has been made.

they scored on fumble returns

they scored on punt returns

they scored on a snap that went over the punter's head

these fools deserved to get blown out

whoman69 · 10-24-2013, 09:33 AM

people wonder why police can never give enough time to important work, this is why.

Sully · 10-24-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

people wonder why police can never give enough time to important work, this is why.

Huh?

Deberg_1990 · 10-24-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

The one thing I thought was pretty rough about Texas football was that there was no running clock in blowouts. Went to a few games when I lived down there that turned ugly, and that second half just drags on and on.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm coaching a terrible team this year (and doing a terrible job, at that), but we're also playing some pretty damn good teams. If it wasn't for that running clock, we would have had half our players quit, because frankly even with it, we've been brutally embarrassed several times. We are playing tomorrow night, and I'd bet any amount of money that we will lose by 40+ (If I were the Pete Rose of HS football).

Other than that, I agree that this parent has done more harm than good. I understand his feelings behind the action, but he didn't give much forethought to how this would paint his kid/kid's teammates by making this move. Even the losing coach knew it just was gonna happen.

Thanks for your thoughts. You obviously have a unique insight into this being a coach. I think the parent who complained heart was in the right place, but was handled wrong and poor form. The term Bullying was misused in this case. Texas needs to implement a mercy rule.
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Just Passin' By · 10-24-2013, 10:56 AM

My condolences to the child for having a brain dead parent.

Jakemall · 10-24-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

they scored on fumble returns

they scored on punt returns

they scored on a snap that went over the punter's head

these fools deserved to get blown out

I didn't say they didn't. I was just saying that if a reasonable effort was made to not make it a blow out by adjusting the play calling and reducing the talent on the field, then no one has a legit gripe.

It would be silly to start taking a knee in the 2nd qtr...and probably even more humiliating.

**MahiMike** · 10-24-2013, 12:10 PM

They have a 10 run rule in baseball. They should have something similar in football. These boys develop at different ages. The good team is probably 25 lbs heavier on average.

I remember my son playing at 120 lbs vs. kids 300. It's stupid.

displacedinMN · 10-24-2013, 07:21 PM

This is not bullying.

In fact, it takes away meaning from kids who are REALLY getting bullied.

The coach tried his best to soften the blow.
The game should have been called.

10-22-2013, 08:47 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3624454	91-0 Texas HS football blowout leads to bullying charge from a concerned parent Bullying or no? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highsc...101510025.html . Aledo's 91-0 victory was so dominant an opposing parent filed a bullying charge — BearcatBoosters.org Each week there are football blowouts across the nation. Rarely are they more one-sided than the 91-0 rout Aledo High (Aledo, Tex.) put on Western Hills High (Fort Worth, Tex.). Now, one parent has apparently been so concerned by the final scoreline that they took the extraordinary step of filing an official bullying report with the school district because of the thrashing. As reported by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and other Dallas-area outlets, the official bullying report was filed by a Western Hills parent on Saturday, hours after the final whistle ended the most one-sided game so far this year in the Lone Star state. Texas regulations require Aledo's principal to launch a full investigation into the bullying allegation. The administration is then to produce a written report addressing the bullying complaint. If it was surprising that Aledo racked up 91 points on Friday, it was no shock that their win was a dominant one. The Bearcats are among the state's most powerful squads year-in, year-out. Friday's victory improved the team's record to 7-0, with Aledo now averaging a whopping 69 points per game. They've outscored their district foes by an incredible 77 points-per-game. In the immediate aftermath of the most recent rout, both coaches agreed that there was no intention of the near 100-point gap in the scoreline. The two coaches spoke to the Star-Telegram about the blowout, and in a unique twist both expressed a sincere sense of regret about the way the game played out. In particular, Aledo coach Tim Buchanan spoke to multiple outlets asserting that his team's frequent blowouts have become a source of embarrassment for the program. "I think the game was handled fine," [Western Hills coach John] Naylor said. "They're No. 1 for a reason, and I know coach Buchanan. We're fighting a real uphill battle right now. "We just ran into a buzzsaw, you know," Naylor said. "[Aledo] just plays hard. And they’re good sports, and they don’t talk at all. They get after it, and that’s the way football is supposed to be played in Texas." "I'm upset about [the bullying report]," controversial Aledo coach Tim Buchanan told the Star-Telegram. "I don't like it. I sit there the whole third and fourth quarter and try to think how I can keep us from scoring. "I looked around [after Friday's victory] and asked, 'Is there anyone here that feels good?'"
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10-24-2013, 08:06 AM	#51
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	The one thing I thought was pretty rough about Texas football was that there was no running clock in blowouts. Went to a few games when I lived down there that turned ugly, and that second half just drags on and on. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm coaching a terrible team this year (and doing a terrible job, at that), but we're also playing some pretty damn good teams. If it wasn't for that running clock, we would have had half our players quit, because frankly even with it, we've been brutally embarrassed several times. We are playing tomorrow night, and I'd bet any amount of money that we will lose by 40+ (If I were the Pete Rose of HS football). Other than that, I agree that this parent has done more harm than good. I understand his feelings behind the action, but he didn't give much forethought to how this would paint his kid/kid's teammates by making this move. Even the losing coach knew it just was gonna happen. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	They have a 10 run rule in baseball. They should have something similar in football. These boys develop at different ages. The good team is probably 25 lbs heavier on average. I remember my son playing at 120 lbs vs. kids 300. It's stupid. __________________ 99.9%
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displacedinMN It was not a fair catch Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $2552630	This is not bullying. In fact, it takes away meaning from kids who are REALLY getting bullied. The coach tried his best to soften the blow. The game should have been called. __________________ #investigatecarlcheffers
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