"Why we need a new coach in '05"

shaneo69 · 11-15-2004, 09:54 AM

I really think DV has gotten to the point where he can't be objective enough when it comes to evaluating these players and asst. coaches in order to make the necessary changes for '05.

Since the Vermiel era started, the Chiefs have rarely been the highest bidder when shopping for free agents. Instead, Vermiel has relied on his "family atmosphere" approach to appeal to the potential signees. But this offseason, if he's still here, he'll be a lame duck coach that UFA's know will not be back in '06. This will be a major obstacle in trying to woo free agents.

For fans, and the organization as a whole, the lame duck season spells danger because anyone that we sign to big bucks may not fit in with the new coach coming in '06. So we might end up wasting cap money on guys who don't fit the new ('06) scheme.

Finally, I think it's necessary for a new coach for '05 to come in from the outside to purge our roster of the guys who have sucked for 3-4 years now. We cannot be stuck with guys like Woods, Wesley, Warfield, Bartee, McCleon, Battle, Holliday, Hicks, Sims, etc. just because they're nice guys, or because they were high draft picks by the current staff, or because they were prize free agent signings by the current staff. We need someone who will study tape and objectively analyze our roster, and make the necessary changes, even if it means putting us in a bad cap situation for a year.

Brock · 11-15-2004, 09:56 AM

who's Peterson going to hire? Gunther?

King_Chief_Fan · 11-15-2004, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

who's Peterson going to hire? Gunther?

obviously not, but Gunther's overall record compared to DV % wise doesn't show much difference.

BigChiefFan · 11-15-2004, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

who's Peterson going to hire? Gunther?

Knowing Peterson, Wannestadt is the first choice.

TEX · 11-15-2004, 10:01 AM

Come to think of it, this season does kind of resemble DV's last season in Philly.

TEX · 11-15-2004, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Knowing Peterson, Wannestadt is the first choice.

REP!

Dr. Johnny Fever · 11-15-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

REP!

I wouldn't laugh too hard...........

Mr. Laz · 11-15-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Knowing Peterson, Wannestadt is the first choice.

yep... prolly linda

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BigChiefFan · 11-15-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

yep... prolly linda

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!!! You're no good, no good, no good, baby you're no good.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 11-15-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

who's Peterson going to hire? Gunther?

I vote for "anybody but Dick."

BigChiefFan · 11-15-2004, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by beer me

I vote for "anybody but Dick."

Sounds like an old girlfriend I used to date.

KCTitus · 11-15-2004, 10:09 AM

A 'come from the outside' strategy would require CP resigning as well.

Both are under contract through '05...at this point, Im guessing they both leave after '05.

shaneo69 · 11-15-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

A 'come from the outside' strategy would require CP resigning as well.

Both are under contract through '05...at this point, Im guessing they both leave after '05.

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm sure a new head coach picked by CP will be expected to eventually move Larry Johnson into the starting lineup.

I find it difficult to solely blame CP for draft failures and free agent busts, because I think the head coach has a lot of say in those matters. But I think CP can be blamed for the Grbac over Gannon decision. And we could be looking at that again if Blaylock is allowed to leave to make room for LJ.

In fact, now that I think about it, this decision could really have an impact on the Vermeil-Peterson relationship. I'm sure DV will be pushing to re-sign Blaylock, while Peterson may decide not to really try to keep him here. If Vermiel senses a lack of urgency on CP's part, we may see sparks fly.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 11-15-2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Sounds like an old girlfriend I used to date.

shaneo69 · 11-15-2004, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

who's Peterson going to hire? Gunther?

No, like I said, we need to go outside the organization for someone who will objectively evaluate our current team. Gunther put us in a hole by endorsing the signings of Hicks, Wesley, Bartee, and Woods.

My choice, based on the weak crop of current assistant coaches in the league, would probably be Bob Stoops. I've been pretty sick of people pimping him for the past 3-4 years, but he's won me over.

11-15-2004, 09:54 AM	Topic Starter
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	"Why we need a new coach in '05" I really think DV has gotten to the point where he can't be objective enough when it comes to evaluating these players and asst. coaches in order to make the necessary changes for '05. Since the Vermiel era started, the Chiefs have rarely been the highest bidder when shopping for free agents. Instead, Vermiel has relied on his "family atmosphere" approach to appeal to the potential signees. But this offseason, if he's still here, he'll be a lame duck coach that UFA's know will not be back in '06. This will be a major obstacle in trying to woo free agents. For fans, and the organization as a whole, the lame duck season spells danger because anyone that we sign to big bucks may not fit in with the new coach coming in '06. So we might end up wasting cap money on guys who don't fit the new ('06) scheme. Finally, I think it's necessary for a new coach for '05 to come in from the outside to purge our roster of the guys who have sucked for 3-4 years now. We cannot be stuck with guys like Woods, Wesley, Warfield, Bartee, McCleon, Battle, Holliday, Hicks, Sims, etc. just because they're nice guys, or because they were high draft picks by the current staff, or because they were prize free agent signings by the current staff. We need someone who will study tape and objectively analyze our roster, and make the necessary changes, even if it means putting us in a bad cap situation for a year.
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