Tony Gonzalez's Value

jspchief · 10-15-2006, 07:57 PM

Gonzo is up for a contract at the end of 2006. After watching him the last few years, I wonder what his value really is to this team. He seems to lack the playmaking ability he once had. Yea, he's still one of the best TEs in the game. But he's no longer a substitute for a WR like he has been for us over the years. He's not particularly fast, he doesn't break a lot of tackles, and to be honest he doesn't have the greatest hands anymore. He's not some nightmare for defensive coordinators any longer.

I'm just beginning to wonder how much he's really worth to this team. In the past he was a guy you could rely on when other facets of our offense struggled. Now he's just another piece that only seems to work when everything else is working.

If Gonzo comes looking for a contract that puts him in the top 5 of the pay scale for TEs, is he still worth it?

JBucc · 10-15-2006, 08:00 PM

No. If he wants Vernon Davis, Antonio Gates money let him walk. If he wants money for what he is, an aging TE past his prime he can stay as long as he wants.

**2112** · 10-15-2006, 08:01 PM

That is a very good question..

I would trade him for A)Immediate needs to get the Chiefs over the top right now.or B)For draft picks and think about the future

Gonzo is built for an attacking passing offense..something the Chiefs are going away from right now

Hammock Parties · 10-15-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bill parcells

Gonzo is built for an attacking passing offense..w

Gonzo is built for an offense where he is not required to be the main receiving threat. He'd be ideal in a place like Denver (gulp) or a place where they have a premier wideout and RB.

**2112** · 10-15-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Gonzo is built for an offense where he is not required to be the main receiving threat. He'd be ideal in a place like Denver (gulp) or a place where they have a premier wideout and RB.

Right!!!!

Florida_Bronco · 10-15-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Gonzo is built for an offense where he is not required to be the main receiving threat. He'd be ideal in a place like Denver (gulp) or a place where they have a premier wideout and RB.

No thanks, we already got our TE of the future.

Hammock Parties · 10-15-2006, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

No thanks, we already got our TE of the future.

Maybe bust of the future. That guy hasn't done shit.

Florida_Bronco · 10-16-2006, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Maybe bust of the future. That guy hasn't done shit.

Rookie TEs usually don't do much their rookie season, especially in Denver's system where the TE position is so complicated.

Hammock Parties · 10-15-2006, 08:01 PM

Absolutely not. I've come to accept that harsh fact. They better not break the bank on him.

Sure-Oz · 10-15-2006, 08:03 PM

I think if he re-signs for decent money sure keep him. But i'd try to trade him and get something. It's obvious we aren't utilizing him like we have in the past.

Hammock Parties · 10-15-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

It's obvious we aren't utilizing him like we have in the past.

I don't think that's true at all. He's just not getting open. The dude was almost unstoppable in Grbac's last two years.

His decline started last year and now he is nothing special. He is no longer an elite player.

Knob · 10-15-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I don't think that's true at all. He's just not getting open. The dude was almost unstoppable in Grbac's last two years.

His decline started last year and now he is nothing special. He is no longer an elite player.

But this year he finally learned spanish

dollar1 · 10-15-2006, 08:18 PM

I agree and (gulp) said the same thing about DT in his final year

~diving under rock~

jspchief · 10-15-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I don't think that's true at all. He's just not getting open. The dude was almost unstoppable in Grbac's last two years.

His decline started last year and now he is nothing special. He is no longer an elite player.

That's just the thing. There was a time when everyone knew Gonzo was going to get the ball, and yet he was still able to get it. Now he gets shut down regularly, and to be honest he drops a lot of balls that he used to catch. I'm just not sure where him and a new contract will fit on this offense. He's no longer a substitution for a WR that he once was.

**Bowser** · 10-15-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

That's just the thing. There was a time when everyone knew Gonzo was going to get the ball, and yet he was still able to get it. Now he gets shut down regularly, and to be honest he drops a lot of balls that he used to catch. I'm just not sure where him and a new contract will fit on this offense. He's no longer a substitution for a WR that he once was.

Is it his fault, though? Tony does all he's asked to do, including stay in and block. And as far as the hands go, he's really always been hot or cold with his catches. He'll drop gimmies, then make an ubelievable snag.

I know it's been talked to death, but the reason Tony is struggling in the pass game is because Willie Roaf bailed out on the team on the eve of training camp. Willie solidified the left side along with Waters. You couldn't find a better left side of the O-Line anywhere in the league the last 2+years. Not only would that insure that Trent has that extra 1-2 seconds to find an open Gonzo, Roaf was a roadgrater as a run blocker. 8 or 9 guys in the box to stop LJ, Tony is open. Third and long, Trent usually had the time to wait for Tony to get open.

And perhaps this foot injury he's battled has taken more of a toll than what he's let on, as well. Add all that up, and you come up with a good TE, not an All-World TE.

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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Tony Gonzalez's Value Gonzo is up for a contract at the end of 2006. After watching him the last few years, I wonder what his value really is to this team. He seems to lack the playmaking ability he once had. Yea, he's still one of the best TEs in the game. But he's no longer a substitute for a WR like he has been for us over the years. He's not particularly fast, he doesn't break a lot of tackles, and to be honest he doesn't have the greatest hands anymore. He's not some nightmare for defensive coordinators any longer. I'm just beginning to wonder how much he's really worth to this team. In the past he was a guy you could rely on when other facets of our offense struggled. Now he's just another piece that only seems to work when everything else is working. If Gonzo comes looking for a contract that puts him in the top 5 of the pay scale for TEs, is he still worth it?
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