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Old 02-18-2013, 12:33 PM   Topic Starter
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****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread**** (OP UPDATED)

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The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

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Old 02-18-2013, 12:35 PM   #2
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I honestly want to start another thread repeating this and just deal with the re-post police for it.

It is impossible to overstate how ****ing stupid this entire conversation is.

Great. I have to hate Mike Mayock now. !@#$
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:42 PM   #3
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I honestly want to start another thread repeating this and just deal with the re-post police for it.

It is impossible to overstate how ****ing stupid this entire conversation is.

Great. I have to hate Mike Mayock now. !@#$
Why do you/did you like Mayock? Dude talks like a 2-year old with a bunch of dicks in his mouth.

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Old 02-18-2013, 12:36 PM   #6
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I hope Jacksonville takes a guard with the #2 pick.
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:39 PM   #7
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I hope Jacksonville takes a guard with the #2 pick.
Nah that won't happen. Pass rusher for sure.
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Not 1 guard but TWO?

Has a guard ever gone #1 overall?

And now there's TWO worth that pick?
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Has a guard ever gone #1 overall?
No.

And no corner, either, for those mentioning Milliner.

QB seems like the obvious pick.

I will say, though, I would rather they took Warmack than Star if they are going to go with a fatty.
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No.

And no corner, either, for those mentioning Milliner.

QB seems like the obvious pick.

I will say, though, I would rather they took Warmack than Star if they are going to go with a fatty.
If they're going to take a lineman, he better DOMINATE - man among boys - from day 1. Warmack has a much better chance of being that then either Joeckel or Star.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:25 PM   #11
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If they're going to take a lineman, he better DOMINATE - man among boys - from day 1. Warmack has a much better chance of being that then either Joeckel or Star.
I'm not sure Star has a place on the team either. He seems like a 4-3 DT, not a 3-4 DE. I haven't seem anything that really projects him to a NT in a 3-4 either and we just took Poe at #11 last year (I suppose they could move Poe to DE).

I'm not an expert or anything, but Star reminds me of Stephen Paea, who the Bears took in the second round a couple of years ago. A nice DT but not worth the #1 pick by any means.
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I'm not sure Star has a place on the team either. He seems like a 4-3 DT, not a 3-4 DE. I haven't seem anything that really projects him to a NT in a 3-4 either and we just took Poe at #11 last year (I suppose they could move Poe to DE).

I'm not an expert or anything, but Star reminds me of Stephen Paea, who the Bears took in the second round a couple of years ago. A nice DT but not worth the #1 pick by any means.
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I like Mayock.

And ultimately, I at least understand the rationale behind a Joeckel pick, even if it is horrifically misguided.

However, Chance ****ing Warmack and even worse - Jonathan Cooper!?!?!

WTF kind of idiocy is that? Is there any justification for a team taking Jonathan Cooper over Dee Milliner when they're running Javier Arenas out there as a starter? No - there is none. And that's setting aside the very easy QB argument or the fact that we don't presently have a complete D-Line and yes, Lotulelei will be a good player in this league.

Setting aside the bad options, he's still offering worse options. Incredible. Yet here this idiot is trying to use that insane "best player for his position" in the draft argument as though we would be wise to take a punter if he could routinely drill it 70 yards.

These guys just have too much time to fill anymore so they start saying shit that makes no sense.
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I've already resigned myself to the fact that we will not be drafting QB 1-1. OKay, so who might be available at 2-1?
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