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Reerun_KC · 08-04-2010, 03:01 PM

Okay this is funny.. My son and I downloaded this movie about 3 months ago and watched it... Nice to see they are on top of things...

Dear Customer,
This message is to advise that Cox Communications has received a notice claiming that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material in violation of U.S. Copyright law. We have included a copy of the complaint, which identifies the party raising it and the material claimed to be infringing.
We ask that you review the complaint and, if it is valid, promptly remove or disable access to the infringing material. If you disagree with the claims in the notice, you should contact the sender, and not Cox, to resolve the matter.
As an Internet Service Provider, Cox is responsible, under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), to advise when we receive a notice asserting infringement by you. We are also required to take appropriate action if further claims are received that you do not resolve.
The material that you post or share online is your responsibility. Cox encourages responsible Internet use, but we do not monitor nor control the information you share. We have a duty, however, to take progressive steps when we received complaints of infringement.
If we continue to receive infringement claims such as this one, concerning your use of our service, we will suspend your account and disable your Internet connection until you confirm you have removed the infringing material.
To learn more about your responsibilities concerning copyrighted material, please refer to our help article at:
http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp...a-4c6448f22d05
http://www.respectcopyrights.org/
http://www.riaa.com/ispnoticefaq.php - (General information about DMCA notices)
If you would like to reply to this email, please keep the subject line intact for tracking purposes.
Sincerely,
Cox Customer Security
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Notice ID: 22-94125217
Notice Date: 4 Aug 2010 20:33:17 GMT
Cox Communications Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation/Dreamworks Animation SKG, Inc. ("Paramount/Dreamworks") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount/Dreamworks' copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report.
BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Paramount/Dreamworks, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the
We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Paramount/Dreamworks' materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).
Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter. http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...20a281a16c618a
For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line. mailtoaramount@copyright-compliance.com?subject=RE%3A%20Notice%20ID%3A%2022%2D94125217%20Notice%20of%20Unauthorized%20Use%20o f%20Paramount%20Pictures%20Corporation%2FDreamworks%20Animation%20SKG%2C%20Inc%2E%20Property
Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Paramount/Dreamworks with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the below address.
Regards,
Mark Ishikawa
Chief Executive Officer
BayTSP, Inc.
PO Box 1314
Los Gatos, CA 95031
v: 408-341-2305
f: 408-341-2399
paramount@copyright-compliance.com
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This infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data. If you would like more information on how to use this tag please contact BayTSP.
Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-94125217
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Infringers IP Address: 68.12.209.193
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Infringing File Name: Transformers 2 Revenge Of The Fallen DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED
Infringing File Size: 1469734654
Bay ID: 19abc3ebf9ca970b72520f4eb430d93e340b368e|1469734654
Port ID: 52080
Infringer's DNS Name: ip68-12-209-193.ok.ok.cox.net
Infringer's User Name:
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Inspector · 08-06-2010, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10

If you can actually figure out a way to "download a mac" without any physical property being taken from anyone then no you wouldn't be stealing it in my opinion.

Smoking pot is against the law too, but Im sure neither of you have ever done that either have you? I never said it wasnt illegal, but from a morality standpoint i dont believe its stealing.

You really should come up with a justification to rob banks too. It would be way more profitable.

Yeah, theives frequently will try to fool themselves into believing that their stealing isn't a bad thing for some reason or another.

And then it's real easy to say "That's my opinion". Cool. Guess what, the guy down the street is of the opinion that he should have your car.

A thief is a thief is a thief, regardless of the property they are stealing. The justifications people are trying pass off in this thread are amazing.

I'd like to thanks the honest people out there. I know there are plenty of us but obviously there are plenty who are not.

Inspector · 08-06-2010, 12:17 PM

Midnight Vulture should drop by and provide his justification for ripping off laptops.

**Bearcat** · 08-06-2010, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10

If you can actually figure out a way to "download a mac" without any physical property being taken from anyone then no you wouldn't be stealing it in my opinion.

So, if you went to Rent-a-Center, signed up to rent something for a week or whatever, then just kept it, that's stealing... but not when you do the same thing with a movie? You're paying a rental price so you can own (steal) it.

Think I'll stop by Hertz on the way home and get myself a second car for $40...

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

No I understand the point completely.

My point was because the record companies were very slow to react when everyone was yelling and screaming that they needed to build their own service because they were getting killed by pirating and Napster.

Apple came along and saved their bacon. Apple is now the #1 retailer for music in the world and just last year they sold over 2.4 billion songs. That is what I mean by own because Apple knows that the music labels aren't dumb enough to cut them off now and piss off half the world who have Ipods. People would just go back to pirating and they know that.

It has nothing to do with iPod.

And FTR, iTunes saved Apple's ass, not the other way around. The iTunes service wasn't even conceived by an Apple employee.

One way or another, there was a market wide open for a digital distribution service. BMG offered a monthly subscription service at the beginning of the decade (as did a few others) but no one trusted the record companies.

Rhapsody was another that didn't catch on. Don't pretend like there weren't other companies out there competing to a digital distributor. Napster even went legit and shortly went out of business.

Apple has a trustworthy name, which is huge part of why their system worked and works. Same for Amazon. I've only bought from the iTunes store once and hated the quality and the experience. Since then, I've only ordered from Amazon because I prefer 256kbs mp3 files over the 128 aac format.

Regardless, your "argument" is weak and invalid in 2010. If you can't afford .99 cents for a song or $8.99 for Netflix or $1 for Redbox, you've got much bigger problems in life.

Reerun_KC · 08-06-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It has nothing to do with iPod.

And FTR, iTunes saved Apple's ass, not the other way around. The iTunes service wasn't even conceived by an Apple employee.

One way or another, there was a market wide open for a digital distribution service. BMG offered a monthly subscription service at the beginning of the decade (as did a few others) but no one trusted the record companies.

Rhapsody was another that didn't catch on. Don't pretend like there weren't other companies out there competing to a digital distributor. Napster even went legit and shortly went out of business.

Apple has a trustworthy name, which is huge part of why their system worked and works. Same for Amazon. I've only bought from the iTunes store once and hated the quality and the experience. Since then, I've only ordered from Amazon because I prefer 256kbs files over 128aac's.

Regardless, your "argument" is weak and invalid in 2010. If you can't afford .99 cents for a song or $8.99 for Netflix or $1 for Redbox, you've got much bigger problems in life.

Just a question... But do you not see the problem here?

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2010, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Just a question... But do you not see the problem here?

No

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2010, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Smoking pot is against the law too, but Im sure neither of you have ever done that either have you? I never said it wasnt illegal, but from a morality standpoint i dont believe its stealing.

Did you steal the pot you're smoking?

Because if not, your comparison is completely invalid.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2010, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16

there is lots of good, valuable music from last decade and there are lots of good, valuable bands from last decade.

I understand your opinion on the subject but I happen to disagree.

If in 20 years, bands from the past decade are being constantly played on the radio (or whatever the format may be at that time), appear in films and TV, you'll have a point.

But from my POV, I don't see that happening.

Reerun_KC · 08-06-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No

I do and can see why the industry is losing money... ON average how many Cd's(records) would you assume that a semi popular artist should sell?

vailpass · 08-06-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Just a question... But do you not see the problem here?

?

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2010, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I do and can see why the industry is losing money

They're losing money because of people like you. People that think it's "Okay" to obtain a copy of said music or feature film without paying for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

ON average how many Cd's(records) would you assume that a semi popular artist should sell?

What does this even mean?

Back before piracy, bands that didn't sell in excess of one million copies per record were likely released from their contract. The profit didn't exceed the expense.

In 2010, outside of the Disney kids and American Idol, big artists are fortunate to sell 500,000 copies, period.

Did you see the stat I provided earlier?

Only 2% of all records released in 2009 sold more than 5,000 copies.

**Bearcat** · 08-06-2010, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Just a question... But do you not see the problem here?

The bolded part is the reason I don't steal... it's no longer a matter of not wanting to pay for an entire CD for one song or paying $10 to see a movie & buy some food at a theater.

$.99-1.29 per song vs $10-15 (or whatever it is, haven't bought a CD in a long time) for a 10-20 song album... sounds about right.

**dirk digler** · 08-06-2010, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It has nothing to do with iPod.

And FTR, iTunes saved Apple's ass, not the other way around. The iTunes service wasn't even conceived by an Apple employee.

One way or another, there was a market wide open for a digital distribution service. BMG offered a monthly subscription service at the beginning of the decade (as did a few others) but no one trusted the record companies.

Rhapsody was another that didn't catch on. Don't pretend like there weren't other companies out there competing to a digital distributor. Napster even went legit and shortly went out of business.

Apple has a trustworthy name, which is huge part of why their system worked and works. Same for Amazon. I've only bought from the iTunes store once and hated the quality and the experience. Since then, I've only ordered from Amazon because I prefer 256kbs mp3 files over the 128 aac format.

Regardless, your "argument" is weak and invalid in 2010. If you can't afford .99 cents for a song or $8.99 for Netflix or $1 for Redbox, you've got much bigger problems in life.

I agree that Itunes saved Apple.

The difference with alot of those other services is that they didn't have all the major record labels in 1 place. People don't want to use 5 different services to find music. They want 1 simple place. That is why napster was so popular and Itunes is as well. I haven't used Amazon so I can't speak for it but I will check them out.

I wasn't trying to make any argument about piracy or defend it other than to say that one of the main reasons why it exploded is because the music industry was clueless.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2010, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree that Itunes saved Apple.

The difference with alot of those other services is that they didn't have all the major record labels in 1 place. People don't want to use 5 different services to find music. They want 1 simple place.

Yeah, you're right. It's really difficult to use a mouse, a keyboard and search engine.

What was I thinking?

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-06-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I wasn't trying to make any argument about piracy or defend it other than to say that one of the main reasons why it exploded is because the music industry was clueless.

The music industry wasn't "clueless". Of that, I can absolutely assure you.

In the beginning, the question that everyone was asking was "How do we deal with this issue"?

BTW, that issue has been resolved for nearly a decade so any excuse to the contrary is invalid.

08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Reerun_KC Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7231160	Check this out: [8.4.2010 5792261] Notice of Copyright Infringement Okay this is funny.. My son and I downloaded this movie about 3 months ago and watched it... Nice to see they are on top of things... Dear Customer, This message is to advise that Cox Communications has received a notice claiming that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material in violation of U.S. Copyright law. We have included a copy of the complaint, which identifies the party raising it and the material claimed to be infringing. We ask that you review the complaint and, if it is valid, promptly remove or disable access to the infringing material. If you disagree with the claims in the notice, you should contact the sender, and not Cox, to resolve the matter. As an Internet Service Provider, Cox is responsible, under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), to advise when we receive a notice asserting infringement by you. We are also required to take appropriate action if further claims are received that you do not resolve. The material that you post or share online is your responsibility. Cox encourages responsible Internet use, but we do not monitor nor control the information you share. We have a duty, however, to take progressive steps when we received complaints of infringement. If we continue to receive infringement claims such as this one, concerning your use of our service, we will suspend your account and disable your Internet connection until you confirm you have removed the infringing material. To learn more about your responsibilities concerning copyrighted material, please refer to our help article at: http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp...a-4c6448f22d05 http://www.respectcopyrights.org/ http://www.riaa.com/ispnoticefaq.php - (General information about DMCA notices) If you would like to reply to this email, please keep the subject line intact for tracking purposes. Sincerely, Cox Customer Security -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Notice ID: 22-94125217 Notice Date: 4 Aug 2010 20:33:17 GMT Cox Communications Inc. Dear Sir or Madam: BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation/Dreamworks Animation SKG, Inc. ("Paramount/Dreamworks") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount/Dreamworks' copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report. BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Paramount/Dreamworks, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Paramount/Dreamworks' materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512). Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal. Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter. http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...20a281a16c618a For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line. mailtoaramount@copyright-compliance.com?subject=RE%3A%20Notice%20ID%3A%2022%2D94125217%20Notice%20of%20Unauthorized%20Use%20o f%20Paramount%20Pictures%20Corporation%2FDreamworks%20Animation%20SKG%2C%20Inc%2E%20Property Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Paramount/Dreamworks with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the below address. Regards, Mark Ishikawa Chief Executive Officer BayTSP, Inc. PO Box 1314 Los Gatos, CA 95031 v: 408-341-2305 f: 408-341-2399 paramount@copyright-compliance.com *pgp public key is available on the key server at http://pgp.mit.edu Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. This infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data. If you would like more information on how to use this tag please contact BayTSP. Evidentiary Information: Notice ID: 22-94125217 Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT Recent Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT Infringers IP Address: 68.12.209.193 Protocol: BitTorrent Infringed Work: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Infringing File Name: Transformers 2 Revenge Of The Fallen DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED Infringing File Size: 1469734654 Bay ID: 19abc3ebf9ca970b72520f4eb430d93e340b368e\|1469734654 Port ID: 52080 Infringer's DNS Name: ip68-12-209-193.ok.ok.cox.net Infringer's User Name: http://www.movielabs.com/ACNS http://www.movielabs.com/ACNS/ACNS2v1.xsd" xmlns="http://www.movielabs.com/ACNS" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"> 94125217 Open BayTSP, Inc. on behalf of Paramount Pictures Compliance Manager, Compliance Team P.O. 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