Chiefs More disappointing than Cassel choking like bitch? - Page 7

**the Talking Can** · 01-10-2011, 08:51 AM

Our coordinators

No one is surprised that Cassel couldn't rise to the occasion (Pats fans have long lectured us to love and accept this mediocrity), but both Crennel and Weis got their asses kicked.

These guys have rings, I expected better.

We have Charles, Moeaki, and that worthless midget McCluster....why couldn't we run that short middle stuff that the Ravens were killing us with?

And we couldn't throw a simple slant to Bowe?....Really?

Ravens destroyed us on 3rd down. Our early blitzes were worthless. The defense got better, and held them to fgs for a awhile, but we couldn't get them off the field in the first half when it was crucial.

It was obvious on the first drive that the Ravens OC saw a weakness in our defense, and exploited it.

I thought we had a great chance to win largely based on the pedigree of our coordinators. Still shocked.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-10-2011, 05:47 PM

G2G isn't 4th and 1, reading comp champ, and we don't exactly have Michael Vick as a pitch man, either.

**Ming the Merciless** · 01-10-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I was begging for a toss left before they ran the play...

Awesome. Thats almost sig-worthy.

Hootie · 01-10-2011, 05:55 PM

Sure...put it in your sig. At least I can be real...if it worked and went for 6 it was a great call...if we call an inside run and get stuffed the same reactions would be going on around here..."why run inside against ngata with weigman at center" "the pitch was our bread and butter why not get charles in space" "why pass on 4th and 1" etc. etc.

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jd1020 · 01-10-2011, 05:56 PM

Nah. It would be more along the lines of "Why the hell didnt we kick a FG when we were only down by 3." Instead we called a pitch with a foot to go which leaves the door wide open for "If you were gonna go for it why the hell dont you run it up the gut?"

Hootie · 01-10-2011, 05:58 PM

Field goal wasn't an option...going for it was the correct call...I hope everyone can at least agree with that.

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Brock · 01-10-2011, 05:59 PM

They weren't going to make that kick.

**pr_capone** · 01-10-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Oh really? I saw the eagles run a toss sweep to mccoy on 4th and 1 against the giants (I think) in a pivotal part of the game that went for a 50 yard td...but no teams do that...except for those shitty chiefs with the best outside runner in the nfl...if there was any reason not to run that play it is because it was predictable...as I was begging for a toss left before they ran the play...in my opinion...it was a good call...and after it wasn't executed it was the last even debatablely good call of the game on offense or defense.

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Teams don't have to account for Cassel taking off on them like they do with Vick. Thinking that because the Eagles can get away with a playcall like that means we can too is ridiculous.

It was a horrid call with horrid execution.

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Field goal wasn't an option...going for it was the correct call...I hope everyone can at least agree with that.

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Yes, I agree with you here.

jd1020 · 01-10-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

They weren't going to make that kick.

We''l never know. Trying a kick would have been a better option than that "trick pitch."

Brock · 01-10-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

We''l never know. Trying a kick would have been a better option than that "trick pitch."

Not really. The end result would be the same.

Hootie · 01-10-2011, 06:01 PM

Uhm lol a toss sweep with vick at qb would be even more difficult to execute because of the fact the ends and backers have to keep their lanes to prevent a possible bootleg or roll out...but yeah yeah...we're the chiefs we're dumb we call dumber plays etc etc etc blah blah blah

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jd1020 · 01-10-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Not really. The end result would be the same.

Which is why it would have been a better option.

FAX · 01-10-2011, 06:02 PM

Priest Holmes used to take the toss sweep into the endzone on goal to go ... on a fairly regular basis, too.

It's dependent upon how you've set up the defense, their alignment and tendencies, and (most of all) your own personnel, more than anything. All this "never, ever, ever" stuff is usually wrong ... in football, as it is in everything else.

It's just like what Grampa FAX used to say; "The only thing you can count on to never happen is Grandma playing Nude Twister in this house again."

FAX

Hootie · 01-10-2011, 06:03 PM

If the "trick pitch" went for 6 it would have been considered a great playcall by everyone...if an inside run gets stuffed the reactions would be the same as they are now...but blaming a trick pitch is easy for picketing fans...that's for sure

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Brock · 01-10-2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

Which is why it would have been a better option.

There is no better when the end result is the same.

jd1020 · 01-10-2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

If the "trick pitch" went for 6 it would have been considered a great playcall by everyone...if an inside run gets stuffed the reactions would be the same as they are now...but blaming a trick pitch is easy for picketing fans...that's for sure

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If, if, if, if, if, if. Todd Haley says, "

! It was a terrible play call!"

01-10-2011, 08:51 AM
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9352208	More disappointing than Cassel choking like bitch? Our coordinators No one is surprised that Cassel couldn't rise to the occasion (Pats fans have long lectured us to love and accept this mediocrity), but both Crennel and Weis got their asses kicked. These guys have rings, I expected better. We have Charles, Moeaki, and that worthless midget McCluster....why couldn't we run that short middle stuff that the Ravens were killing us with? And we couldn't throw a simple slant to Bowe?....Really? Ravens destroyed us on 3rd down. Our early blitzes were worthless. The defense got better, and held them to fgs for a awhile, but we couldn't get them off the field in the first half when it was crucial. It was obvious on the first drive that the Ravens OC saw a weakness in our defense, and exploited it. I thought we had a great chance to win largely based on the pedigree of our coordinators. Still shocked.
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01-10-2011, 05:55 PM	#93
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Sure...put it in your sig. At least I can be real...if it worked and went for 6 it was a great call...if we call an inside run and get stuffed the same reactions would be going on around here..."why run inside against ngata with weigman at center" "the pitch was our bread and butter why not get charles in space" "why pass on 4th and 1" etc. etc. Sent from my Ally using Tapatalk
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7042645	Nah. It would be more along the lines of "Why the hell didnt we kick a FG when we were only down by 3." Instead we called a pitch with a foot to go which leaves the door wide open for "If you were gonna go for it why the hell dont you run it up the gut?"
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Field goal wasn't an option...going for it was the correct call...I hope everyone can at least agree with that. Sent from my Ally using Tapatalk
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Uhm lol a toss sweep with vick at qb would be even more difficult to execute because of the fact the ends and backers have to keep their lanes to prevent a possible bootleg or roll out...but yeah yeah...we're the chiefs we're dumb we call dumber plays etc etc etc blah blah blah Sent from my Ally using Tapatalk
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01-10-2011, 06:02 PM	#102
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	Priest Holmes used to take the toss sweep into the endzone on goal to go ... on a fairly regular basis, too. It's dependent upon how you've set up the defense, their alignment and tendencies, and (most of all) your own personnel, more than anything. All this "never, ever, ever" stuff is usually wrong ... in football, as it is in everything else. It's just like what Grampa FAX used to say; "The only thing you can count on to never happen is Grandma playing Nude Twister in this house again." FAX
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01-10-2011, 06:03 PM	#103
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	If the "trick pitch" went for 6 it would have been considered a great playcall by everyone...if an inside run gets stuffed the reactions would be the same as they are now...but blaming a trick pitch is easy for picketing fans...that's for sure Sent from my Ally using Tapatalk
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